How your bank calculates Monthly Average Balance ?

Do you understand what is the meaning of Minimum Monthly Average Balance in your saving account? When you say “Monthly Average Balance of your saving bank account is Rs.10,000”, what does it mean exactly?

A lot of people feel that their balance in saving bank account should not go below Rs.10,000 on any given day, otherwise, there will be penalty charges and they make sure that they have a buffer of Rs.10,000 in their saving bank account all the time.

This means that their account should always have that much surplus. However, the way the monthly average balance is calculated is different and very simple.

how banks calculate my monthly average balance?

Meaning of Monthly Average Balance?

It simply means that the average of the all the closing day balance in a given month. So given a month, add up all the closing day balance and then divide it by the number of days in the month. If you have to put it as a formula it would be

MAB = (Total of all the EOD closing balance)/(number of days in a month)

Let me show you an example. Let us say the month we are talking about is April. The minimum balance limit in your bank lets say is Rs.5000.

Now your balance at the start of the month (Apr 1) is Rs.10,000. You withdraw Rs.8000 on 10th Apr and then Deposit Rs.2000 on 20th April. What will be the Monthly average balance for the April month?

monthly average balance

Learning’s & Tips

  • Keeping Rs.10,000 in a bank account for 15 days is same as keeping 5000 for full 1 month (10k * 15 days = 5k * 30 days)

PSU Banks vs Private Banks

A lot of PSU banks like SBI bank, Bank of India, Allahabad bank generally have a lower monthly average balance to be maintained in saving bank account, it’s average limit is up to Rs.5000 non-Maintenance Charges are very low around Rs.40-50 only.

However Private banks like ICICI Banks, HDFC bank, Axis Bank etc have Monthly balance as high as Rs.10,000 and charges a high penalty for not maintaining it , It some times can be as high as Rs.750.

So by now, you must have known how the minimum average balance is calculated? Will this information impact your banking in any way? Will you keep less money in your bank account because you now know that Monthly average balance is calculated in a different way than you thought?.

Let us know if you have any query in the comment section.

Jagoinvestor Pune Mega workshop on May 20th 2018 (Sunday)

We are happy to announce, that our next full-day workshop in Pune is scheduled on 20th May 2018 (Sunday).

We invite you to come and participate with your friends and family. It is an opportunity for you to block one full day for your financial life where you get a chance to work on your financial life. We do not teach tricks and tips to build wealth, but in fact we help you to discover your own personal process of creating wealth.

Why we do these kinds of offline event/workshops?

We do these events because they make a positive difference in people’s financial life. The conversations we do, create an impact on people’s thinking and they are able to re-invent themselves as an investor. The event is not about financial products and numbers, it is about learning and mastering the principles of wealth creation. It is about learning realizing your past mistakes and about creating a powerful future for yourself.

Register for Pune workshop on 20th May 2018 (SUNDAY)

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Venue and Timing Details

8:30 am - 6:00 pm , 20th May (Sunday) , 2018
The Central Park Hotel, Pune
Near Inox Multiplex, Bund Garden Road,
Agarkar Nagar, Pune - 411001

 

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We have also created a facebook event for this workshop. Do click on Interested if you want to join it.

Why should you come to the workshop?

  • You will learn how to improve your financial life with your current set of resources and income.
  • You will learn how to plan for your financial life goals
  • You will interact and learn from other’s people’s financial life
  • You will dedicate one full day to get better with money management
  • You will learn to add new dimensions to your financial life
  • To understand that personal finance can also be fun
  • To give a whole new direction to your financial life

Let us share our survey findings (Survey was done on 10000+ Investors)

We did a survey with more than 10,000 investors some time back and here are the results of the survey.

survey results workshop

The survey is LOUD and CLEAR – It’s time to re-invent

The theme of our workshop is going to be re-invention, you will get a chance to examine your financial life and will explore ways to re-invent your financial future.

The results from survey seem alarming and the best gift we can to the investor’s community is our workshop Your real wealth is your clear mind as once the mind is clear all the good decisions will happen on its own, the workshop will leave you with a clear mind and with new openings of action.

Our Vision to do Workshop in different cities and organizations

This year we intend to do the workshop in maximum cities and in more and more organizations. The content and design of workshop are powerful and we want the workshop conversation to touch more lives. If you want to do a workshop in your city or in your organization you can share your details in the below Google form, we will get in touch with you at the earliest.

It’s time to add Jagoinvestor workshop to your financial journey

It has been a few years now conducting “Design your financial life” workshop and each time it has been a very fulfilling experience for us. It is a wonderful space to be in, in which the group learns and starts to fall in love with the process of wealth creation.

This time we want more and more couples to participate so that they can get on the same page when it comes to personal finance. It is extremely important that the husband and wife both take an equal interest when it comes to money management. We are offering a special discount to those who want to come with their partner. (You can even come with your parents, siblings or friends and can claim the discount)

The workshop we conduct is highly interactive, it has lots of activities and fun exercises that help you to discover your relationship with money. The sessions are interactive and very easy to grasp for any kind of investor, beginner or advanced. In short, there is something for everyone in this workshop.

Super Bonus Launch of Finscore Tool

We will be launching our newly designed scoring system with all our workshop participants. The scoring system is going to be a game-changer for many investors. It has taken around 6-7 years for us to design the whole system and we are all set to raise the curtain. We are so happy to share our scoring system with the investor’s community, it is simple, easy and extremely powerful in nature. It is more like a technology to live a good financial life.

After the workshop, participants can sign-up for our paid service to get complete access to the tool. We will give free financial health check-up access to all participants so that they can check up their scores.

The workshop is strictly for investors and not for advisors or finance professionals. If any advisor/IFA/CFP is found to be registering for the workshop, he/she will not be allowed to participate.

If you have never participated in any personal finance workshop let this one be your first experience. If you have any questions you can write in the comments section or you can email on [email protected]

What is EPS Scheme Certificate? (this is related to EPF pension)

Do you know that, when your employer contributes to EPF then a larger portion of it goes to EPS (Employee Pension Scheme)? In this article, I will elaborate to you what is EPS, how it works and also the process of getting its certificate to claim your pension.

Employee Pension Scheme

What is the EPS scheme?

EPS i.e. Employee’s Pension Scheme is actually part of EPF itself, which means it is applicable for all the employees who are contributing towards EPF. This scheme offers a guaranteed and secured pension to the employee after retirement. A nominee can also get the benefit of pension under this scheme after the death of the employee.

Both employee and the employer contribute equally i.e. 12% of employee’s monthly salary towards employees EPF. However, the 12% which the employer provides, out of that 8.33% goes towards EPS and only remaining 3.67% goes to your EPF.

Diagram showing contribution to EPS and EPF

Features of EPS:

  • The minimum pension amount that you get is Rs.1000 per month.
  • The employee can avail of the pension benefit after retirement or once he attains 58 years of his age.
  • The employee can defer his EPS up to the age of 60. In this case, he will get an increase of 4% on his EPS balance for every deferred year.
  • Widow/ widower and children (up to 25 years of age) of the deceased employee will also get the benefit of this pension scheme.
  • In case the widow/ widower opts for remarriage then, only the children will receive the pension until they attain the age of 25 years.
  • If the child is disabled then, he is eligible to receive the pension for his entire life.
  • To claim your pension you need to get the EPS certificate from EPFO.

Who can get EPS certificate?

Every employee who has been registered under EPFO can get EPS certificate for claiming his pension. The EPS balance can be either withdrawn after retirement or it can be claimed as pension by opting EPS certificate depending on the tenure of service and the age of the member. So, to elaborate this, I have given some examples below (The length of the service is rounded off to one year if the number of months served is more than 6)

    • A person working for 9 yrs. and 6 months (will be considered as 10 yrs.) but less than the age of 58yrs can either apply for the scheme certificate or can withdraw the money from EPS.
    • A person who has attained the age of 58 yrs. but has completed only 7 yrs. of service then he can either apply for a scheme certificate or can also withdraw.
    • A person who has done more than 10 years of service has to apply for a scheme certificate. He cannot withdraw money from the EPS account.

What is EPS Certificate?

EPS Certificate is a certificate issued by the Employees Provident Fund Organization (EPFO), Ministry of Labour, and Government of India, stating the details of service of the Provident Fund member. The EPS Scheme Certificate shows the service details of the employee, i.e. the number of years he has served and the family details of an employee, i.e. the member of the family who is eligible to get a pension in case of death of the member. As the EPS Scheme Certificate has all the details regarding the service of a member of EPFO, it serves as an authentic record of service.

This is how EPS Certificate looks like:this is how eps certificate looks like

How to apply for EPS Scheme Certificate?

Once you are leaving the job, then you have to fill the Form 10C. In the form 10C, there are options either to withdraw EPS or apply for EPS Scheme Certificate. Once you chose the options to issue EPS Scheme Certificate, then your employer sends the same to EPFO and then EPFO will issue you an EPS Scheme Certificate. If your all inputs are correct, then EPFO will issue you the EPS Scheme Certificate within a month or so.

This is how Form 10C looks like:

this is how form 10 C of EPS looks like

I hope this article has helped you in understanding every detail about EPS and its certificate. Let me know if you have any queries or doubts in the comment section.

Procedure for EPF Withdrawal on death? (here are 6 documents required)

A lot of EPF accounts are lying unclaimed after the death of an employee. Families have no idea how to claim the EPF money and what is the process?

Today I will share with you how your family will be able to withdraw the EPF account money in case something happens to you.

withdraw EPF after death of employee

How to claim EPF money after the death of an employee?

Once a person is dead, the beneficiaries of the dead employee can proceed with the process of withdrawing the EPF money. The first right is of the nominee who was mentioned in the EPF by the account holder. Mostly it’s a father or mother as most of the people are unmarried when they start their careers and they mention one of the parents as a nominee.

Here are the documents one need to submit

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1 EPF Composite Form The first form is called the Composite form for death cases, which is a single form to be filled to claim EPF, Insurance money and any pension amount.
2 Death Certificate You need to provide the death certificate of the EPF account holder who had died.
3 Birth certificate of children claiming pension If there are children of the deceased who are claiming the EPF, they need to provide the birth certificate for each of them
4 Joint photograph of claimants One has to provide a joint photograph of all the claimants together. This is to make sure that there is no fraud in the name of claimants.
5 Copy of cancelled cheque or attested copy of the first page of Bank Pass Book To make sure there is proof of the account where the money is is going, one has to provide a copy of the cancelled cheque or the first page of the bank passbook
6 EPS Scheme certificate (only if applicable) This is a certificate which is a document that has all the details of who will get the pension etc after the death of a member. It’s issued by EPFO and this is applicable only when there is a pension part applicable.

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How does the EPF Composite form look like

Here is a snapshot of how the EPF composite form in death cases looks like. This is the main document that one has to fill if they want to claim the EPF amount.

Composite claim form to withdraw money from EPF account after death of employee

You can also download the EPF Composite form for death cases here.

Share this information with your Family

As you can see, that the process of claiming EPF is lengthily and painful, you should make sure that you make it easy for your family members to claim back the EPF money. Hence please do the following things

  1. Keeping all of your important information in one place which is safe and accessible to your family
  2. Please update the nominee of your EPF to someone whom you really want it to go
  3. If you have a WILL, mention the beneficiary who should get the EPF money

I hope you get a clear idea about the EPF claiming process now. If you have any query please reply in the comment section.

7 Incredible reasons why you spend more money each month & How you can control it ?

Wow .. Today I am going to talk about your SPENDING habits and what governs it. Spending money is a critical part of anyone’s financial life and pretty much define’s how our financial life looks like.

Spending more is pretty much a reason why we go to our work, because at the end of the day, money has to change hands, be it now or later. In a way its a beautiful creation of this world. We have some great things in life today because we have spent money on it and bought it.

While I can keep talking about the best parts of spending , today I want to cover why we spend “more” and why we sometimes go beyond out set limits.

money saving tips for Indians

Most of the investors financial life today is highly screwed mostly because of their spending habits and the way they deal with their expenses, and many fall into the trap of “living on paycheck month after month” . So Today I want to pick few reasons which force us or makes us spend more money than we should . Lets look at each point in detail and yes – grab some coffee 🙂

Reason #1 – Because you don’t use CASH

Yes – This one simple thing can urge you to spend more.

The whole payment system has transformed totally in last 10-15 yrs in our country. There was a time when you carried cash every time you went to market to buy something. You knew how much you will be spending before hand, carried exactly that much money with some small buffer amount and bought the stuff you wanted.

Be it Milk , Vegetables, Grocery, Petrol or anything else.  It was simple transaction. Exchange money and get what you want.

Then credit cards and debit cards happened. They arrived as “convenient” ways to make payment and this convenience came at a big cost.

Paying by Cash is emotionally painful

While cards gives you convenience, it also takes away that emotional feeling which you get when you pay by CASH. When you pay cash, you take out the money, count it, can think about it and it leaves your wallet and you “feel” that something parted away with you. This is not the case with credit or debit card.

This can be clearly seen in online shopping. A lot of people buy things on impulse using their cards online, the bought items arrive and you take it because you mostly have no choice. Compare this with paying cash, you think you want something, order it with cash on delivery and then let some time pass.

In this option, you have enough time to think back on your decision simply because the money has not yet left your wallet (with cards, it’s already gone) .

This is exactly what happens in real life too, people who buy things on cash on delivery often change their mind and reject to buy things because now they think they no longer need it. Read the report below

Cash on delivery is the most inconvenient payment option. It allows customers too much time to change their mind,” said K Vaitheeswaran, the founder of Indiaplaza.com.

Indiaplaza.com, which sells books and electronic goods, was the first to introduce the payment method more than a decade ago. It realised in about a year that cash on delivery was “painful”. Rejection rates are at about 45%, partly because there is no upfront cash commitment, according to Vaitheeswaran.

Source – Economic Times

Cash discourages spending

While this might not be consciously visible to you and many will deny this, but as per various studies, its shown that cash payment discourages spending, while using credit cards or gift payment encourage spending. Below you can read one of the studies on this topic.

Priya Raghubir, PhD, of the Stern School of Business at New York University, and Joydeep Srivastava, PhD, of the Robert H. Smith School of Business at the University of Maryland, College Park, asked participants to read various buying scenarios and answer questions about how much would they spend using cash versus various cash equivalents.

In the first study, 114 participants estimated how much they would pay using various payment forms for a vividly described restaurant meal. The results showed that “People are willing to spend (or pay) more when they use a credit card than when using cash,” the authors wrote. They attributed the difference in spending behavior to the way cash can reinforce the pain of paying.

Have you ever realised that when you use cards for payments, you are too casual about the actual bill amount, because you can pay any amount at that moment without worrying about it.

Also you generally don’t see the money leaving your wallet at all, the bill comes after a month and by that time, it’s too late to think about it in detail and your only job it to pay that bill. It’s just another bill and nothing else.

You can read this awesome report on cash vs cards payment and do listen to this short audio on this matter.

I am not saying that stop using cards. Do it wherever you feel its applicable and you can’t control things, but “cash payment is a pain” is highly overrated thing. You can very much use cash for various payments in today’s time exactly like you did it few years ago.

In fact you can take out cash from your account in start of the month for all the pre-planned expenses and then use cash for it.

Note that there can be some reasons like cash back and reward points offered on cards because of which you can use the cards, nothing in that. The point I just want to make sure is that using cards can change the spending behaviour in people and you should control that.

Reason #2 – Because you don’t make a list of items you need

Me and my wife shop all our grocery from DMART, a retail chain mostly in all the big cities in India. We once went there to buy “few grocery items” which were roughly 6-8 in quantity, and when I came out of the store after 45 min, I had a bill of Rs 2,800 in my hand with two big bags in my hand which had tons of things we shopped inside.

I didn’t feel much about it at that time, only to realise next morning that once again we bought many things we either don’t need or we bought it in high quantities than required. So what happened when we went to the store without a predefined list of items?

There was a chain reaction of “We need that also” and “Lets keep this too, as its going to finish soon” and then one items led to another and then we went to clothing section and then utensils sections and we could see so many things which we need WANT.

We went there without a purpose and the whole world was open for us to shop, mix this with the convenient method of payment (card) and you don’t have to feel the pinch at the same moment. It’s a deadly combination !

The other problem is that you buy things on the name of “lets try this once” and also buy things in quantities larger than you need. I once bought peanut butter, just to check why people in US love it so much, but I didn’t love it and only consumed it once, thank god my wife finished it by mixing it in curries instead of raw peanuts !

Did you use the lists many years back while shopping ?

Go back 15 yrs in life and think about those times when you mother handed over the small piece of paper which had those 10 things written down along with quantity. It was easy then, you went with the list to shop, handed over the slip to the shopkeeper and waited there for 10-15 min and that was it.

Good that my wife still does that most of times when we do the monthly grocery shopping. My wife has actually take written down all the kitchen ingredients (109 items) in excel sheet, taken many print outs and every month she checks what is needed and what is in stock. While we still buy few things which are not in the list, but it’s very small percentage.

You can see the same list of 109 items below

grocery item list for monthly shopping

When you go shopping without a pre planned item list, it’s almost sure that you will buy things you really done need. If Rs 3,000 is enough to cover your actual requirement, you will spend Rs 6,000 just because you don’t go with the list. While I am not saying that you should totally shift to this kind of shopping, at least try it 2-3 times and see if you can stand it or not.

Reason #3 – Because you buy things on on short term excitement

This is mostly for the big purchases (anything above Rs 1,000) . It can be that juicer, the bigger TV, clothes, weighting scale, or even bigger car and house. Most of the people don’t spend enough time to understand if they really need something or not. This is how it typically works

  • You come across something
  • You are delighted by looking at it (and there is also a sale going on)
  • You come across a reason which justifies you wanting it.
  • Buying stuff is easy anyways (net banking debit card or credit card)

And after a week, that same thing is lying at your home unused or used once or twice. Most of the wardrobes are over stuffed by things which was bought on an impulse, because it was on Sale or because they thought they needed it (but in reality they don’t need it)

It’s extremely critical to understand today that the whole world is trying to make the buying process extremely easy for buyers today and tries to lure them with EMI’s (which makes things look affordable)

Let the excitement settle down

The solution for this is to make sure you WAIT for some time, before you buy the stuff. Let some time pass by and let that instant emotion die down.

You came across that great shoe online, where you get 40% OFF, that too with FREE home delivery and anyways your credit card is pre stored on the website – All you need to do is login and punch the CVV number and thats all – You just bought the stuff which you 100% want, but mostly don’t NEED !

I will share my own 2 dumb mistakes I did recently. First I bought a costly bicycle last year, because I so wanted to get into cycling. I joined 2 online clubs, researched a lot on cycles and within 24 hours bought one which I have to admit I hardly used. It still needs my attention.

Next I bought a little bigger size TV recently, which I wanted and needed (I watch lots of TV), but later realised that I should have bought a much bigger one, because now I can’t find much difference in the size I earlier had and the new one which I have now.

I feel I could have avoided both the mistakes, if I waited for 2-3 days and let that impulse die down. If only I had written down 3 reasons why I badly need it, I could have saved myself from the blunder I did, because I know I would not be answer myself on why I need those things strongly.

Reason #4 – Because somebody in your family/friends also have it

I seriously cant speak a lot on this, because it looks so stupid to even think how people buy things just because others have it and not because they need or want it. There are two things here ..

First is Peer Pressure , Just because friends in your group have something, you feel the pressure on you to have the same thing in your life so that you can be equal to them. If their kids go to school A , you also want your kid of go to school A , not school B . If they drive a 10 lacs car, you feel a bit uncomfortable having a Rs 4 lacs car.

The One sided Pressure most of the people feel

Most of the times, this pressure is just one-sided . It’s in your mind and not in your friends mind or even your relatives mind. True friends and people who care will never judge you with what you own and compare it with themselves. If they do, it’s better to let them go out of your life.

quotes on spending money

This peer pressure is clearly visible when it comes to giving gifts to friends/relative and spending on others when they visit you. Just because “they” put Rs 501 in the envelope, next time you can’t put less that, and god forbid if you put Rs 1,001 , now its their turn to “gift” you next time when its their turn.

If you read a book called “Linchpin” by Seth Godin, you will love the way he talks about how the world has become a place of transaction , where no real “gift” or “favor” exists in this world. Even if you truly gift something to someone without expecting anything , still the other party know it does not work that way.

Some day they will have to return the favor !

Apart from the peer pressure, at times there is purely the act of “looking good” and wanting to show off ..

People spend purely because they want to stand apart, because they want to attract some eyeballs and their ego’s are pampered just because others are talking about how great your “stuff” is , not YOU 🙂

Reason #5 – Because money is “available”

I know this would sound strange to many , but a lot of spending happens because there is money available in the pocket. However stupid that sounds, there is huge element of truth in this. Just because you have a lot of money lying with you, all the reasons to spend money seem justified to you.

Many expenses will suddenly appear “unavoidable” . Have you ever been into a situation when the supply of money was restricted for months and months? Did your life move on peacefully or not ? Did you find reasons to postpone or avoid expenses or not?

Always remember a very important point about money ..

“Money is like flowing water, if you don’t give it direction, it will find its own”

Always make sure you define a purpose for your money and allocate it for some goal in life, so that you know what is it going to be used, this is important because next time when you have some low priority expenses coming up, you know you can’t touch the money allocated for some higher priority expenses in future.

I have beautifully explained this in one of my books written by CNBC

Not just label the money, but let it leave your bank account and get invested in some financial product. By default make it tough for yourself to use it (not so tough that you cant use it at all) .

Example

To give you an example, imagine you earn Rs 80,000 per month , after your EMI and other commitments, you are left with Rs 20,000 saving per month. One thing you can do is let it be there in saving bank account and let it grow over time . After 3-4 months, you will have 60-80k in your account and more coming up in future.

At this moment, you are not that happy with your 4 yr old car and your friends are upgrading to a better car and now a small “wish” is seeding in your mind that even you deserve it (I am assuming your old car is still good enough) . In few months, you will surely make your mind to upgrade your car because you have the down-payment ready in your bank account and you also have capacity to pay the EMI for the car !

Compare this with the situation when you have already defined that the extra 20,000 will go into a recurring deposit for next 3 yrs , so that you can accumulate around 7-8 lacs in 3 yrs which will be used for your house renovation, or kids school expenses or some vacation you are looking forward from last many years.

Once you define that and let your money leave your account each month, you virtually don’t see anything lying in your bank account and your tempt to use it for your car up-gradation will die down.

This point is so powerful, that I even decided to answer one of the questions on quora.com

What is some money advice I can learn in less than 10 minutes, which will help me become rich?

Understand that I am not against upgrading your lifestyle, you have to upgrade some times when life demands it and when you really deserve it, but most of the people upgrade things not for themselves or for some strong reason, but just like that because they want to show it off or just feel a temptation.

Upgrade your life responsibly if you have to, its tough to downgrade it later 🙂

More Availability of Money and What you can Buy

You can notice that India has changed a lot in last 10-15 years in terms of availability of things we can spend on and even in disposable income lying around. There is a lot of money which can now chase a big amount of things, so naturally the temptation of buying things has gone very high.

I can say with confidence, that your most important expenses today form a very small part of your overall expenses and the big part is on things you don’t need for survival.

So whats the solution ? If you are someone who is left with money each month after your expenses, make sure you list down your goals in life, list out how much money you need to invest to achieve those goals and start your SIP’s in mutual funds or recurring deposits and let your money chase those financial goals .

Reasons #6 – Because small expenses turn out to be BIG by the month end

I love this point and this is something you can relate to easily. A lot of expenses look small in nature or a very small ticket size, but when you look at them on a monthly or yearly basis, they turn out to be a big one.

Something which costs Rs 200 might look a non trivial thing at that moment when you are spending on it, its effect on your monthly budget will not look big, but this is not how it happens in real life, you do the same thing 7-8 times and that means few thousand rupees which does not even register in your mind.

Take an example of online shopping of clothes or gadgets, while doing on transaction, it would be few hundreds or thousands, which does look big, but if you add up all the expenses by the month end or in a quarter, you will realise it was a major one which you didnt even considered while you were trying to recall where exactly your money went.

Watching Movies and Eating Out – The silent expenses

Now – I am a real movie buff (I have even started watching Marathi movies and they are so awesome) and we also eat out quote often. These two expenses are might not look quote big if you focus on it just one time. You feel you so much deserve it and that’s why you are earning so much money, But these can go over board and turn out to be a big number (at times 10-15% of your take home).

You need to keep an eye on it and I am not talking about a mental calculation, but actually writing them down for a month and seeing the real numbers. It might turn out to be a big surprise .

I did exactly that for the month of October 2014. I originally thought that my movies + eating out + snacking expenses should be somewhere around 3,000 and my grocery + veggies expenses should not be crossing 3,500.

But when I actually wrote it down for each day for the month of Oct and saw the real numbers, I was shocked to see that my movies + eating out expenses turned out to be more than double of what I originally thought, on the other hand, my grocery expenses was so less (seems like that month the grocery expenses actually were very less for some reason, as we just 2 of us).

Below you can see the exact numbers

expenses tracking

So what you should do ? Truly speaking – I don’t think one should restrict themselves on spending on things which add up to their quality of life and if you truly enjoy it. You can surely spend money on things you truly wish and cut down on things which are waste or does not add much to your life. Ramit Sethi calls it as ‘Conscious spending’ and you should read his article on this point.

So just be a bit alert on things you are spending on and when it starts going over the roof – take charge of it and control it. Dont be over fanatic over controlling each bit of it, it does work in real life.

Reason #7 – Because of ‘Enjoy today, Pay Later’ trick

The last point I want to cover is EMI option of payments. The option of payment in installment is a powerful tool to make people believe that they can afford a stuff and because the EMI amount fits their monthly income, most of the people buy things much more than they need or can afford.

EMI option in payments is nothing less than a revolution which has driven the consumption levels to insane levels. Everything you can imagine today, especially in online shopping, where you can buy literally anything on EMI and bring it inside to your “affordability zone” by just choosing “Buy on EMI”.

If you look at an example of flipkart , I add Moto X smartphone which costs Rs 29,999 in the cart for buying. Now for someone who has a salary of Rs 30,000 per month (A lot of youth lies in this category) can’t afford this phone because its equal to one month salary.

How EMI option changes the whole equation of affordability

They can purchase it without any issue just because they can buy it on EMI option and suddenly they will just have to cough up Rs 3,500 per month. While this looks really amazing to some people, this is how the debt cycle start for most of the youngsters new into job and then they get trapped into it for many years.

EMI option while shopping

Here is a report from Livemint which talks about the way companies use EMI options

EMIs (equated monthly instalments) aren’t new to Indians, but it’s a strategy that companies such as Apple Inc., Gold’s Gym and others are increasingly adopting in a bid to beat the sluggish economy, convincing customers to overcome their reluctance to spend too much money and to go ahead and splurge on an iPhone or a fitness club membership.

Clearly, India is turning into an EMI nation.

A range of items are available—cellphones, sunglasses, jeans, vacations, hair transplants, gym memberships—as companies seek to drive consumption in a weak economy. And it seems to be working, most evidently in the case of the iPhone, once a rarity, but suddenly more commonplace in urban India.

IndiGo and Jet Airways (India) Ltd, two of India’s largest airlines, are the latest to announce the availability of air tickets on three- or six-month instalments. Although the schemes have been on for a year, the firms’ recent promotion through newspaper advertisements helped persuade dithering customers, especially since fares have surged 25% in the holiday season

Hence, its important to make sure you don’t fall into the trap of EMI’s for those things which you absolutely don’t require and cant afford.

So how to spend optimal money ?

Expenses are important element of your financial, if you earn a lot , its of less use if you also spend a lot , because what ever is left at the end of the month goes into creating your financial wealth in long run. Its important review your spending pattern, various categories you spend money on and talk with your spouse, parents about it and try to optimize it.

Review each thing and see which of those expenses can be reduced or eliminated or shifted to some other category.

At the end of day we all earn money primarily to spend it on things, but at times things get out of control and does not fit into what we had originally planned.

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Be Anna of your Financial World – Action Month Special

Anna is not a name it is a mammoth movement in itself. He has created a wave and has impacted thinking of every common man.

Me and Manish in one of our discussions saw something and thought of sharing how you can bring “ANNA MAGIC” in your financial life. We are not going to discuss any political or country level corruption; we are addressing your habits of casualness and procrastination of being corrupt, it is a slow poison that can damage or corrupt your financial life.

Financial world

Ask yourself how corrupt is your financial life? Or How Corrupt you are with your personal finance promises and commitments? Where do you sell yourself cheap in your financial life? (We procrastinate on concepts and take things casually; at time we don’t pay to get the right advice)- Today let’s be honest and face it.

We all start almost in the same fashion:- Going to college, getting a job and start earning and still, we all live a different kind of financial life. We all have the same core foundation & aspects of financial life what is different is how we live our financial life.

3 Things to keep your financial life in control

Let’s invest our time and energy in removing the internal corruption of our financial life. To have ‘more’ you need to become ‘more’ and so we are asking you to be the stand that ‘Anna’ in your financial life.

This may not change the world but it will surely change your world if you practice these things in your financial life. One request don’t deviate from the topic we are very clear this is not at all about Anna or Indian politics it is purely about your financial life.

1. Be a leader in your financial life

You can either live a corrupt Financial Life or as a leader choose to live a Non- corrupt Financial Life. The moment you start holding financial products in your financial life which are not on purpose your financial life starts getting corrupt.

If you lose things with a “chalta hai” attitude your financial life starts getting corrupt in that moment itself. Don’t follow blindly to what you see and what your friends invest in. Don’t be a follower of ‘hot tips’ and schemes of making fast buck (remember Speak Asia) .

Take a rock solid stand to remove all non-purpose products from your financial life. Your financial life is a clear reflection of how corrupt or non-corrupt you are.

2. Be a creator

You can create and pass your wealth-pal bill now . If your financial life is in your hands than what are you waiting for, if you are the driver of your financial life than what are you waiting for?

Get one thing very clearly that your wealth-pal Bill is in your hands, it needs your signature and alignment. The bill can get your financial life back on track and will keep you focused all the time. Here you are the standing committee as you need to take a stand for your financial life to be great.

3. Be accountable

Make yourself accountable for the financial life you have. Make yourself accountable for the income level you are having. And also Make yourself accountable for your current financial position that you are having. Being accountable is the third pillar of designing and living a great financial life.

If you have a low say-do ratio you are living a corrupt financial life. If you maintain a high say-do ratio you start having more power in the way you live your financial life. You start getting more confident about your investments and more committed with your financial goals.

Make yourself accountable for. See the above three areas as a “Law” and implement it as a law in your financial life religiously and see the changes that happen in your financial world.

The action month is on. (readers on email can fill up the form here). More than 1050 (till the moment) different tasks are going to be completed by hundreds of participants and they are choosing to remove all the corruption “laziness” and “casualness” from their financial life.

If you want to choose the movement you don’t need to go to ramlila maidan you can join the movement by filling in the below form and let the magic of being Anna begin. This article is also dedicated to one of our client who is a stand like Anna for bringing change in peoples financial life.

Tell us what do you think about this article. Do you like it? If you want to ask any question you can leave a query in our comment section.

 This article is written by Nandish Desai.

Who will be the nominee for your financial products? – Concept of nominee with example

Did you think that your nominee is the person, who will get all the money legally from your Life Insurance Policy and Mutual funds investments? Ha! That is exactly what you’d think if you aren’t aware of the legal aspects.

We assume a lot of things which sounds like they’re obvious, but are not true from the legal point of view. Today, we’ll concentrate on nominations in financial products.

Nominee in Insurance , mutual funds

For whom are we earning? For whom are we investing? Who, do we want to leave all our wealth to, in case something happens to us? It might be your children, your spouse, parents, siblings etc., or just a subset of these. You also might want to exclude some people from your list for beneficiaries!.

So you think you will nominate person X in your Insurance policy, and when you are dead and gone, all the money goes to person X and he/she becomes the sole owner? You’re wrong, dude ! It doesn’t work that way.

Let’s see how it actually does!

What is a nominee?

According to law, a nominee is a trustee not the owner of the assets. In other words, he is only a caretaker of your assets. The nominee will only hold your money/asset as a trustee and will be legally bound to transfer it to the legal heirs. For most investments, a legal heir is entitled to the deceased’s assets.

For instance, Section 39 of the Insurance Act says the appointed nominee will be paid, though he may not be the legal heir. The nominee, in turn, is supposed to hold the proceeds in trust and the legal heir can claim the money.

A legal heir will be the one whose is mentioned in the will. However, if a will is not made, then the legal heirs of the assets are decided according to the succession laws, where the structure is predefined on who gets how much. For example, if a man during his lifetime executes a will.

In the will, he mentions his wife and children as legal heirs, then after his death, his wife and children are the legal owners of his assets. It is essential that one needs to execute a will. It is the ultimate source of truth and replaces the succession law. Nominee can also be one of the legal heirs.

Important

  • Mention the Full Name, Address, age, relationship to yourself of the nominee.
  • Do not write the nomination in favour of “wife” and “children” as a class. Give their specific names and particulars existing at that moment.
  • If the nominee is a minor, appoint a person who is a major as an appointee giving his full name, age, address and relationship to the nominee.

Why is the concept of nominee?

So you might be wondering, if the nominee does not become the sole owner, why does such a concept of “nominee” exist at all? It’s pretty simple. When you die, you want to make sure that the Insurance company, Mutual fund or your shares should at least get out of the companies and go to someone you trust, and who can further help, in process of passing it to your legal heirs.

Otherwise, if a person dies and hasn’t nominated anyone, your legal heirs will have to go through the process of producing all kind of certificates like death certificates, proof of relation etc., not to mention that the whole process is really cumbersome! (For each legal entity! The insurance company, the mutual funds, for the shares, for the real estate..) .

So, to simplify, if a nominee exists, these hassles don’t happen, since the company is bound to transfer all your money or assets to the nominee.The company the goes out of scene & then, it’s between nominee and legal heirs.

Example of Nomination

Ajay was 58 years old who died recently in an accident. As his children were settled, he wanted to make sure that his wife is the sole owner of all the monetary assets. This includes his insurance policy and mutual funds.

So during his lifetime, he nominated his wife as a nominee in his term insurance policy and mutual funds investments. However, after Ajay’s death things didn’t turn up the way he wanted. The reason being Ajay did not leave a will.

Though his wife was the nominee in all his movable assets, as per the law, his wife, along with children, were the legal heirs and all of them had equal right to Ajay’s assets.

One simple step which could have saved the situation was that Ajay should have made a will which clearly stated that only his wife was entitled to get all the money and not his children.

#Nomination in Life Insurance

A policyholder can appoint multiple nominees and can also specify their shares in the policy proceeds. Nomination in life insurance has one limitation, as insurance policies are bought to secure your financial dependents, your first choice of nominee has to be your family members.

In case you want to nominate a non-family member like a friend or third party, you will have to show/PROVE the insurance company that there is some insurable interest for the person. This happens because of a Clause called PRINCIPAL OF INSURABLE INTEREST in insurance.

Note that provision of nomination in life insurance is related to Section 39 of the Insurance Act. Note that as per LIC website

Nomination is a right conferred on the holder of a Policy of Life Assurance on his own life to appoint a person/s to receive policy moneys in the event of the policy becoming a claim by the assured’s death. The Nominee does not get any other benefit except to receive the policy moneys on the death of the Life Assured. A nomination may be changed or cancelled by the life assured whenever he likes without the consent of the Nominee.

Make sure, you have a nominee for your policy for easy settlement of the claim, if you do not have any nominee mentioned in the policy, it can turn out to be a disaster for your dependents to get a claim.

#Nomination in Mutual funds

In case of mutual funds, you can nominate up to three people, who can be registered at the time of purchasing the units. While filling in the application form, there is a provision to fill in the nomination details. Even a minor can be a nominee, provided the guardian is specified in the nomination form.

You can also change nomination later by filling up a form which is available on the mutual fund company website. Nomination in mutual funds is at folio level and all units in the folio will be transferred to the nominee(s). If an investor makes a further investment in the same folio, the nomination is applicable to the new units also.

A non-resident Indian can be a nominee, subject to the exchange control regulations in force from time to time.

Watch this video to know what is nomination in Mutual Funds

#Nomination in Shares

Quiz for you :). Now you know what a nominee means and who actually gets the money. So if there is a husband H, with wife W and nephew N, and he has nominated his nephew N to be the nominee of his shares in demat account, who will have the legal right to own the shares after husband’s death?

If you answer is wife, you are wrong in this case! In case of stocks, it does not work the usual way, if a will does not exist.

In the verdict, Justice Roshan Dalvi struck down a petition filed by Harsha Nitin Kokate, who was seeking permission to sell some shares held by her late husband. The Court noted that as she was not the nominee, she had no ownership rights over the shares.

Ms KokaThe’s lawyer had argued that as she was the heir of her husband who had died intestate (without a will), she should have ownership rights of the shares, and be able to do anything with them as she wished.

In this case:

Ms Kokate’s husband had nominated his nephew in favour of the shares. Justice Dalvi however noted that under the provisions of the Companies Act and the Depositories Act, Acts which govern the transfer of shares, the role of a nominee was different.

“A reading of Section 109(A) of the Companies Act and 9.11 of the Depositories Act makes it abundantly clear that the intent of the nomination is to vest the property in the shares which includes the ownership rights thereunder in the nominee upon nomination validly made as per the procedure prescribed, as has been done in this case.”

Source : Moneylife

It means that if you have not written a will, anyone who has been nominated by you for your shares will be the ultimate owner of those stocks, The succession laws on inheritance will not be applicable but in case, you have made a will, that will be the source of truth.

#Nomination in PPF

If the subscriber dies and there is no nomination at the time of death, the balance in the account, if it is upto one lakh, will be paid by the Accounts Office to the legal heirs of the deceased on receipt of application in Form G supported with necessary documents without the production of succession certificate. If the balance is more than one lakh, the production of Succession certificate will be necessary. (source)

#Nomination in Saving/Current/FD/RD Account in Banks

FD’s also come with nomination facility. While opening a new account, there is a column for nomination in the same form and you should fill it. You can nominate two persons with first and second option. Note that in case you have not done any nomination till now, you should request Form No DA-1 from your Bank which is used to assign a nominee in future. (Examples of ICICI Bank , HDFC Bank) . In the same way to change/cancel the nomination you need to fill up Form no DA-2. Read about Corporate Fixed Deposits

As per a famous case, A Bench of Justices Aftab Alam and R M Lodha in an order said that the money lying deposited in the account of the original depositor should be distributed among the claimants in accordance with the Succession Act of the respective community and the nominee cannot claim any absolute right over it.

Section 45ZA(2)(Banking Regulation Act) merely put the nominee in the shoes of the depositor after his death and clothes him with the exclusive right to receive the money lying in the account.It gives him all the rights of the depositors so far as the depositors’s account is concerned. But it by no stretch of imagination make the nominee the owner of the money lying in the account,” the Bench observed.

Conclusion

Now you know! Taking Personal finance for granted can be fatal 🙂 Just investing knowledge, isn’t enough to have a great financial life. You also need to be well versed with basic legal aspects and make sure you carry out all due arrangement .

Nomination is one important aspect you should seriously consider, when checking for the financial products you have bought or plan to buy in future. Mistakes in Personal Finance

Its important to make sure that your loved one’s do not face legal issues and only say and think lovely thoughts about you when you are not around, rather than crib & grumble 🙂 . Fix your nominee in all the financial products

What are the important elements of setting your financial goals?

One of the most important part of financial planning is setting financial goals. The first step involved is to know where you want to go ?

If you have no goals set , then you will be randomly investing and as your goals in life comes along the way, you fulfill them. It can happen many times that you are not prepared and some important goals is near by, however you didn’t give much thought to it from many years or months and at the end you have to take decisions in hurry, which you don’t want to take.

Financial goals

By setting your financial goals in advance you can get a good idea of what lies in future and start preparation for it (Goal of financial planning)

What is goal setting ?

Goal setting is a process of defining your goals in Life. There are many important and intuitive characteristics of any goal, which makes it SMART . Lets see what those 5 important element of goal setting is .

Specific : Your goals should be specific and not a very general one, It should contain detailed information and should not leave a room for further questions.5 “I want to buy a house” is a very general goal , however “I want to buy a 3 BHK Flat in Karvenagar area in Pune costing around 35 lacs within next 5 yrs” is a more specific goal which gives a clear picture to you . Look at returns from Real Estate in India

Measurable :  Your goals should be measurable in terms of “How many” or “How much”. It should not happen that you have a rough idea of the goal. Many people I talk with; say “I want to buy a big house”. It’s a great thing to dream for a big house, but at some point in life you will actually decide the actual size and how many rooms and what will be the area.

Not having a clear view means no idea of how much it will cost and then you can’t save for it properly. “I want to buy a 4 BHK house in 5 yrs” will mean you can exactly find out how much you need to save per month so that you can achieve the goal with higher accuracy, you should be able to track your goal.

That means goal being measurable .

goal setting in financial planning

Achievable : This mainly means that your goals should be achievable given your current situation. When financial planners start working with some client, one of the major issues is targeting unrealistic goals in life. Just because you are hiring a financial planner does not mean that he is a magician and will somehow create a strategy for you .

If you are saving Rs 20,000/ month , dont target “3 BHK House in 5 years without loan” as one of the goal because it’s not possible given your current situation. If you put a lot of unattainable goals, the first thing is you will not be able to define how you can achieve them in the first hand.

Relevent : What will happen, if you always wanted to become IAS officer, whereas your goal is “To crack CAT exam” ?

If this happens , you will start with some enthusiasm in start but at some point, it would be tough to sustain the enthusiasm and energy, because that’s not you really wish to and even if you some day achieve that goal which you planned, it would not make sense because it’s not aligned with your life objectives.

This is very much true for financial goals also. You have to make sure your goals are very much what you wish in life .

Lets see some of my personal goals in life .

a) As I like to travel a lot so I would like to generate enough money in next 15-20 yrs , so that I can travel to different countries every 6 months .

b) I would like to build a Farm Land by year 2035, where I can personally do “Vegetable Agriculture”. (I personally have experience of growing things like corn, potato, tomato, carrots, radish, peanuts, cabbage, cauliflower, chana, almost all green vegetables, pulses, peas , onion , garlic) . Yes I have done it in UP at my hometown as a hobby. Do you know hybrid tomato seeds can cost upto Rs 75,000/KG 🙂 so we bought 1 gm 😉 .

c) I would not like to save much for my child marriage, as I would like to encourage them for love marriage and settle things with a simple ceremony , that’s all . I dont believe in lavish marriges anyways .

d) I have no long-term goals of buying house, I would rather like to live in rent for long and build a corpus in pure equity + debt . If things changes and one day I feel real estate is something which should really be part of my portfolio, I will change my mind .

vegSeriously, do you want to buy that 55 lacs flat which is ‘almost’ out of city and commands a rental yield of not even 3% ? Do you ?

Timely : Imagine your goal is like “I would like to buy car of 5 lacs”, Fine ! . Now what do you do ? Do you save 5,000  per month or 20,000 and for how long , It’s important to set a time line so that you have a clear idea of how much does it take to achieve some goal. You can calculate the investment needed for that (See how to calculate) .

Example of Goal setting

Very simple way of doing this is to categorize your goals in Short Term , Mid Term and Long Term and each of them will have “High Priority” and “Low Priority” . This way you have a clear idea of what is important and first preference in all the time frame , For example .

  • “I want to buy a Car worth 6 lacs in next 5 yrs, which can accommodate around 5-6 people” can be a High priority , Mid Term goal , where as
  • “I would like to take a 2 weeks vacation in Kerela with my family worth 50k , can be a Low priority, Mid term goal .

Let us see the full example of Goal settings

 

 

High Priority

 

Low Priority

 

Short Term (<3

yrs)

 

  • Sister Marriage contribution: 3 lacs in 2012
  • Buy a Car in 2013 : Rs 3.5 lacs
Mid Term (3-6

yrs)

 

  • Initial Child Expenses : Rs 2 lacs in 2015
  • Abroad vacation with spouse : 5 lacs in 2016
  • Invest in a unique startup idea in year 2016 : Rs 2 lacs
Long Term (7+

yrs)

 

  • Child Higher Education : 40 lacs in 2035
  • 60% down payment money for a house : Rs 45 lacs in 2025
  • Retirement Corpus : 5 crores in 2035
  • House in a small town : Rs 15 lacs in 2025
  • Passive monthly income of Rs 50,000 per month starting in year 2030

You might want to look at subra’s post on Financial Resolution , it gives a good idea of how you should start and stick to financial goals .

Importance of Goal Setting with an Example

Even though it looks nonsense,  you need to understand its importance and its impact. Financial Planning is all about achieving goals in the best possible manner by considering your current situation. If you do not have a goal set with some target amount and target date, then you don’t have a clear idea of reaching there.

Imagine a goal of “Child Education” which costs Rs 10 lacs in today’s value. If your target date is after 25 yrs, then considering a 10% education inflation (historically it stands at 10%), the target amount will be 1.08 crores { 10 X (1 + 10% ) ^ 25 }. Now lets take 3 scenarios with return assumption of 12% per annum .

1) You plan for it and start saving for next 25 yrs

In this case , you will have to save Rs 5,710 per month for next 25 yrs . So you can start an SIP today and consistently start investing for this goal . If you get 12% over long-term , and you do not deviate from your goal and consistently invest with discipline , you can reach the target .

2) You plan for it and save more in the starting years

In this case , lets assume you can save more money in the starting 10 yrs and then do leave your money to grow for next 15 yrs , then you just need to save 7,800 per month for next 10 yrs and then leave the money to grow for next 15 yrs .

3) You do not plan for it and start saving at later point

Incase you do not plan for it and lose the starting years of your earning life and once your child is 9-10 yrs old (suppose you lose 10 yrs) and then you start thinking about the higher education , then to meet the same goal you need to save 21,500 per month for next 15 yrs .

Learning

The most important learning we should take from this article is that planning for a goal gives a direction and enables us to start thinking in that direction. We spread out the effort of achieving that goal in different stages, rather than struggling at the end when that goal is near .

Comments , share your thoughts on setting financial goals , what are the problems in real life which does not encourage us for setting the goals in this manner , Is it realistic ?

Things that you should know before hiring a financial planner

As a concept ‘financial planner’ has been in existence over several decades in the western world and in modern times, this role has turned into a well understood and highly regulated profession.

In the developed markets Financial planners would be similar to the family GP (general practitioner or family doctor) advising their clients on money matters ranging from buying into real estate to making of wills and estate planning.

5 reasons why you should hire a financial planner

In India though the concept, as it is understood in the west, is yet to arrive; we always did plan our finances well. This was, however, done by a variety of means. For instance, we took advice of friends and family members before finalizing the property deal; we asked colleagues for a reference to persons who could provide us the financial product that we wanted to invest in.

We also were chased by individuals who would specialize in selling a particular product (Common mistakes in Personal Finance). It could have been insurance, tax planning products, loans etc. In most events there was significant mis-match between what we wanted and what we got. The products would service most but not all requirements of the problem we had.

This has been changing over the past 5-7 years with the emergence of financial planners. These individuals/firms approach in dealing with client’s financial problems is more integrated than what most of the firms offer in India today.

Financial planning firms in India now help you address whatever your financial need, just like their western counterparts. Below are 5 main reasons why should hire a financial planner:\

Read : A short guide to Hire a Good Financial Planner in India

You can also watch this video to know the Financial services by Jagoinvestor.

1. Service

This is the most fundamental part of any financial planner. Since when you hire a planner and he charges you fees, individuals can expect a very high level of personalized service from the firm/planner.

This serves several purposes. It frees a significant amount of time that you invest in doing research for investment/ financial products. This in-turn helps you choose the right financial product/service.

2. Accountability

By far this is the most important reason to hire a financial planner. Over the past few years, there have been a plethora of financial products that got manufactured and a significant of those that got invested into were sold by individual/firms who were and are not held accountable for promise and performance.

There has been a wide gap between these and it continues to be easy to get away after completing the transaction without any recourse to the agent/intermediary for non-performance. ‘Caveat-emptor’ or buyer beware is applied on majority of financial products.

A financial planner and his engagement is a multi-year one and rest assured that chances are that more often than not you can demand an answer and check back on promise and performance of the financial product sold.

In fact, the planner of today in India is the one that keeps clients updated on what has been the periodic performance of his/her investments.

3. Knowledge

There has been a sea change in the financial landscape in India over the past 10 years. Financial products that got manufactured in India have increased in complexity and oft border on the esoteric fringe.

A planner endures that he is updated on the latest happenings around him and is expected to do two things – guard his client into signing on against anything which is not in his/her interest and select products which though not understood well but suit and serve the purpose and his financial goals.

Both of these activities require a deep understanding of the markets and products per se. In addition, global certifications such as the CFPCM (Certified Financial Planner) provide the added comfort that the individual has done enough homework before he takes fiduciary responsibility of your funds.

4. Ethics

This is easy to understand and preach but difficult to find and practice. Here is where the difference can be stark and contrasted. Financial planners who have demonstrated business ethics and integrity will remain a standout.

Because of the esoteric nature of quality involved in testing the planner whether he is ethical or not, the test can be done by simply asking questions such as – What process does he follow in taking and dealing in funds? What is the quality of people he employs at this firm? How long has he been in the business? How has he grown the business? – references, ads etc.

Answers to questions such as these will provide you with a fair degree of things such as Ethics, honesty et el.

5. Goal orientation

Not the least of them and equally important is the ability of the current planner to being goal oriented and inculcating a habit of financial discipline into the client’s psyche. The benefits of this get blurred in the overall scheme of things due to the nature of the long length towards the realization of them.

Things like children’s education, marriage or spending for one’s 25th marriage anniversary are events stretched far out in the future and hence not planned for. The planner’s ability to set aside or build funds for these events and the benefit of those would dawn upon when the events arrive over the short horizon.

This is a guest article written by Vinayak Kanvinde , Vinayak is a CFP and Head of Research at International Money Matters Pvt Ltd

“Papa Kehte Hain” problem in Personal Finance

So I was talking to this reader and came to know that her husband’s investments are done by his father. I was curious to know the reason of this and to my surprise, the biggest reason that came up was that he (the husband) has no interest in Investments and personal finance and hence he has outsourced this decision-making part to his Father!

So this guy’s father does all his mutual funds, LIC policies, PPF and other tax saving instruments, apart from that he does his non-tax saving part too. He has bought some Child ULIP’s to “secure” his grand children’s future.

Let us see this serious disease which is killing our country slowly .

Problems Which can arise due to “Papa Kehte Hain” kind of situation

  • Unsuitable Psychology : As we discussed earlier, today’s world needs better way of handling investing decisions and a better psychology, A person has to be more updated these days than what our Fathers were in their days. So today’s father generally do not handle money in right way as it should be because of lack of knowledge and a different attitude.
  • No Idea of Investments and documents : You may also not be aware of where your parents are investing your money ! They might not tell you about it or they may forget to tell you where the documents are kept, when is the maturity of some products and issue like these which look small but can become very major when some bad things happens.
  • No Self-dependency and hence lack of knowledge: It might look rude but believe me, your parents will go some day and all of it is going to come at you some day and not knowing a lot of things that time will be a horrible situation. You don’t know how to invest, where to invest, you not knowing the rules of investing, you don’t know where you took insurance from, when is it maturing, etc,etc. It’s like starting all over again. It can be painful, you are always dependent on your parents then. Its a bad thing.

An Important question you have to ask

In today’s world most of the fathers and Uncles have no idea how to take investing decisions. It’s a new and different world now compared to their days. They have not much idea of how things should happen in today’s world.

Our fathers, grandfathers and Uncles have come from a very different time when  there were no choices other than LIC polices and FD’s. The education was cheap, every one’s desires were limited and people were happy with their limited environment.

Things have changed today and now we are in a different world which has added pressure, high expectations from life, Education needs lacs today, the costliest one is for the kids these days, forget adults :). People are eating out more, people are spending more, want more (not need more) and to achieve all that we need to grow our more smartly.

Buying simple FD’s and Endowment policies will Kill you some days without letting you know.

“Most Parents today do not understand how to take investing decisions in today’s world and environment. Trusting them with this skill can be very costly in today’s world. There is no harm in evaluating if they should take it in their hand or not. Be bold!!

Why are you letting your Father take the decisions? What’s the reason for it? Is it respect and just because he is the oldest one you know in your family and he has seen more life than you? Do you think it makes him more better investor and decision taker than you or some one else? It’s not right!!

May be he is totally not suitable, Respect and “experience” is fine, but you can’t just let them take decisions just on these two criteria. It’s dangerous.

Counter Scenario

On the other hand, we have Father or elderly relatives who are really good, they are experts in field of direct stock investing. Understanding financial planning and have good experience of investing with today’s environment, it’s always advisable to take their help or at least the guidance in many cases.

At the end you have to decide if your parents are the right one’s to take decisions for your money or not? It’s a personal evaluation to be done.

Has this Happened to you? Do you know of any one who is facing similar issues? Please share your views and personal experiences.