Category: Investors Behavior

5 reasons why Financial Life begins at 30 – A wake-up call for all YOUNG investors

Posted on by Nandish Desai

This article is to be seen as Financial life –  wake-up call. (Read it and share it with those whom you think needs a wake-up call)

When you are in your 20’s the areas that rules your mind are getting a good placement, partying, buying gadgets, finding right life partner or it can be setting-up your own business. There is very little space for money management (This is true for majority of people, there are always some exceptions).

I can say this because in my early 20’s, personal finance was an alien to me. In a way I was not ready to play role of an investor. I was totally casual and irresponsible with the money I had.

Financial life - wake-up call

Now, when you step into your 30’s the entire scene changes. Some kind of short circuit happens in your head and you suddenly become serious about your hard earned MONEY. You start to gather personal finance knowledge from different sources, look for information, advice on internet and you start to read about personal finance (even if you struggle to understand it)

The Student in YOU is STILL alive

When you were a student I am sure you never started studying on the very first day of your college. Like majority of students you would have waited for the exam dates to get announced and when the exams get extremely close you would have purchased or opened your books (got notes photo copied) and started to prepare for your exams.

The last 7-10 days were the most crucial days for you. In such situation passing or scoring good marks turns into a mission.

Now, this is exactly what most people are still doing in their financial life; they are waiting for the last moment to arrive. They are waiting for the right amount of pressure to get build.

In your 20’s the pressure is least, in your 30’s it starts to build and in your 40’s or 50’s it turns into a do or die situation. Most of you don’t start your investments with the first salary you receive and so I made the statement that the student in you is still alive (If you are an exception I congratulate you)

Top 5 Moments of Transformation that makes you serious about your hard earned money

1. When you experience Ants in Your Pants

In your 30’s when you get face to0 face with your net worth the question that hits your mind is, where did it all go?

You realize that you have been slogging 13 hours a day from last 7-10 years and your net worth is not satisfactory at all. This moment is extremely confronting and it makes you feel uncomfortable but at the same time this is the moment of transformation.

In such moment you become serious about your financial resources and your financial life. Some people start to write budget, some hire a financial planner and some write their situation to bloggers like Nandish and Manish. (Every day we get one such mail from some or the other investor and we start our rescue operation)

Hello Manish,

To start with I am one among very few people who practically is broke I must say.  I took things for granted as most of us do and realized what deep shit I have got into. I am 31 years and believe me I don’t have savings worth my age as well.

Your blog woke me up from that undisturbed sleep that made me feel everything is okay.  Swear to God it is not. Considering the things I have been to in the past. Lived the American way like there is no Tomorrow. Paid the biggest price ever Sir.

Not anymore, after reading you first book on personal finance I made a promise to myself that enough is enough. Not anymore and made couple of promises to myself that I am sure will keep.

Also would like to use your paid services sir, I never found a number that I can call on on the blog sir. Please provide with a number or advice how to start with considering I am in deep mess, I guess I need to recover all those years I’ve spent without savings.

Lost those early years sir and planning to recover them somehow.

Regards,

Stuck investor

Get this clear, it is not about this investor/person because many of you are sailing in the same boat in the area of personal finance

2. When Goals starts to Appear Scary

Most of the investors become serious about their finances when they do some calculations around their goals. Goals like buying house, children education, children marriage and retirement are considered to be the scariest amongst all other financial goals.

getting serious about money

If you want you can test it, do some calculations and then look at your current savings and bank balance. The thought that will strike your mind will be “It’s high time I start doing something about my finances”. This particular moment is again moment of transformation.

In this very moment you start to become serious about wealth creation and you start taking actions in your financial life. By the way in reality no financial goal is scary, if you mismanage money the goals starts to appear scary. (You are one who makes them scary)

3. When you Experience Personal Earth Quake

Imagine a strange situation in which you experience personal earth quake right under your chair (Others are fine only your chair is shaking). We can say this from our experience of working and interacting with investors that such situations make’s a person serious about their financial future.

In your world you think you have made all the right investment choices but on one fine day you land on a blog like jagoinvestor and you discover that you have made all wrong choices and you are a victim of mis selling.

This personal earth quake moment shakes you, wakes you and in a way shatters your financial world. In this very moment you start doing required home work in your financial life, before putting blind signatures you will take out time to read the brochures of different financial products. From this very day you stop trusting all the uncles and relatives who supplied you free dose of advice.

4. Real life experiences causes transformation

Reality is the best teacher you will ever encounter in your life. We have come across numerous cases which brought drastic change into people’s overall attitude towards money management. One of our clients lost his elder brother at a very young age and this event made him very serious about life protection and how important it is to keep things organized.

A lot of people after one of their family member gets hospitalized they become serious about health cover. My invitation is do not wait to take actions in your financial life. You don’t have to wait for some accident to take place before you start wearing helmet.

Look around you and learn from some real life experiences as they are of the biggest source of transformation you will ever find.

5. Breakdown in Career

It is said that “Man proposes and god disposes”. In my book “11 principles to achieve financial freedom” we have a chapter called “Your plan vs. God’s plan for you”. It is a fun and insightful chapter that helps you to think beyond making plans in your mind.

We have coached many investors who had some kind of career breakdown and we could see how it made them extremely serious about their finances. Somewhere you start to value money most in your bad times.

Most of people in their 30’s take major career decisions, they are clear that their idea is going to get them all the success that they are looking for. I am not saying doing business is risky or one should not experiment. All I am saying is such situation leads to personal transformation into an investor’s financial journey.

Some final wake-up words to engage with

Do not wait for a kick on your ass or for some unpleasant situation to occur before you get serious about money management. We wrote this article because majority of our clients for financial planning and financial coaching are in their 30’s. Something happens when you step into your 30’s and you need to acknowledge the moment or event that got you serious as an investor.

Whatever is your age right now just start taking actions in your financial life. Also, in the comments section share the moment that made you serious as an investor and what would you say to those who are yet not serious when it comes to money management?

This article is contributed by Nandish Desai. Let us know your thoughts about this article.

The BIG Debate – One should Lend money to relatives and friends or NOT?

Posted on by Nandish Desai

In past have you ever extended any kind of financial support to some friend or relative and now you are unable to recover the money that you gave? You may have tried hard to get your money back but instead of money you only receive (false/genuine) promises in return. Imagine of a situation where your close relative or friend is in real need of money, they place you in a position where you just can’t say NO to them. And out of your goodness you end up lending money to that person.

lending money to friends and relatives

The important questions that one needs to ponder are; you should lend money to friends and relatives or NOT? What to do when people don’t return money on time? What to do when the situation is highly emotional and it is hard to say NO? One should get totally practical or not? Do you earn to help others or you earn for your own financial well-being? What if some people want to take undue advantage of your strong financial position and they act needy all the time?

I want to share what we posted inside our boot camp 6th Batch

Wednesday Brainstorming Question

How many of you have given money to some friend or relative and you are now afraid to ask for your own money? – Let’s brainstorm on what really STOPS people in asking for their own money also let’s discuss how one can initiate such recovery conversation. Giving money is one part of the story what about the other part which is about recovering your money (With or without interest)

To create wealth one has to be a good receiver and not just a good GIVER. If you are only good at GIVING it just does not work. We want you to call-up your friend or relative and initiate money recovery conversation, here in such issues it is NOT about money, it is always about your relationship with money.

We would also love to hear experiences from those who are willing to ask for their own money. (We want this group to recover all such blocked money)

PS: In case you have taken money from someone we invite to have conversation about returning that money. Don’t wait for other person to come and ask. This is how you master your relationship with money and people.

Amazing Reply by Arnab Mitra

We received some amazing sharing and experiences from all our participants. All the experiences shared were amazing but a few points raised by Arnab Mitra (who is also the co-author today with us on this article). He encouraged us to write this article.

Here is the reply by Arnab

Under certain circumstances and situational basis, people lend money to relatives, friends, sometimes to the circle of your labors. Earlier I saw my parent’s situation of how they struggled to reclaim loaned money from their blood relations ( YES indeed ..) . And now, I am no exception either. I have already lent a relative and a servant significant amount of money. I understood their requirements, and as I mentioned – situational bias obliged me to lend. However, the position/response of reclaiming the amount back is not satisfactory. I am able to recover recurring partial payment from 2nd person ( who is not a relative ) from his monthly wages , but recovering the significant amount of money loaned to my relative is quite away.

Several phone calls/reminders didn’t seem to work. Interestingly, the relationship is so close that I didn’t think about to inform my family. But, few months ago, as I was indeed worried whether I would get my money back, I had to inform my close ones. It was very very embarrassing situation for me as well as for my close ones to discuss on lending. I have received a part payment but – certainly there is imbalance in that relationship. There are few more such instances I have mentioned below.

My leanings from the above

1. Forget about relationship (obviously if it’s within your own family) when money comes in between you and distant relatives. Controlling emotional thrust is what I have learnt can zip your wallet.

2. It is all about your hard earned money – it’s not for donation.

3. How small the amount is – if you loan to someone – go chase it. Let me share similar fact – I gave Rs. 500 to worker, who runs a tiny store next to our apartment complex to iron people’ apparels. I made sure I recovered that through enough number of apparels without paying to recover the amount. May be people think – what the hack – just for Rs. 500 – but that is what circumstances taught me.

4. Another one – I loaned Rs. 3K to a known person as he is about to setup a homeopathy dispensary. That guys requested amount from all of the families in our apartment complex. What we did, we kept a diary of record of money loaned by each lender and got it signed by us and that person. We will recover a monthly amount from him once, the dispensary is fully functional.

5. The above steps seem to show selfishness, but those have changed my behavior of lending money ( even though if its Rs. 100 ) , and to become selfish.

Let me also share the exact snapshot from our bootcamp page, so that you get the feel !

arnab mitra reply on bootcamp on lending

7 dimensions to keep in mind while lending money

1. Give space to NO

There are so many people who end up lending money just because they are not able to say NO. How will it look? Is the question that clouds their head and they are not able to say no in that crucial moment. Now, we also have category of people who very well know that they should learn to say NO but still they end up saying yes. Your “yes” turns expensive when you are hold a NO in your mind.

I was once participating in a seminar where I was taught that 99% of people are victim of ‘looking good factor’, when in front of people they either try to look good or they are busy trying to avoid looking bad. In some situation saying NO serves you better and so learn to say NO when you are not in a mood of lending money to someone.

2. Create Clear agreement

While lending money people are aligned with each other but what about agreement. Alignment is internal chemistry between two people whereas agreement is something which happens in the external world. When it comes to lending money along with good alignment one needs to create clear agreement with each other. Creating clear agreement is about agreeing to something which leads to mutual understanding of things.

Here is how you create an agreement – “I am giving you x amount for x purpose and you agree to return full amount with/without interest by so and so date”. When you create clear agreement there is very little space for expectations to breed. People who fail at creating clear agreement while lending money always get disappointed by expectations that they set for the other person.

3. First check your Capacity to lend

You may have money to give someone but do you have the capacity? Once your basics are in place and after making all the investments for your goals if you are left with surplus money, it shows you have extra capacity to lend. A lot of people miss out on this point, their decisions are driven by their emotions and they do not take decision to lend money based on their capacity. One should lend only when one has the capacity to lend and not otherwise because such casual lending will have direct negative impact on your financial life and future.

4. Prepare a legal document or take something in writing

This point according to me is the most important point to consider while lending money to someone. Adding the legal dimension sometimes checks the genuineness of the person who is asking for financial help. If the person is clear he is going to return the money he/she wont hesitate for such legal documentation. Also in many cases it has happened that instead of returning money, the borrower claims money from the family of lender. (In case of sudden death of lender). Such confusions and complexities can be avoided with the help of legal documentation or by taking things in writing.

5. Mechanism of Reminders

Most people fail to set-up mechanism of reminders. While lending money both the lender and borrower can decide upon weekly, monthly or bimonthly reminders. You can set auto reminders on your google calendar or by email,sms or by calling each other at regular intervals. It is important to stay in communication because once the channel of communication breaks it becomes difficult to recover your money after some time.

6. Habitual Behavior

If more than 3 to 5 people have not returned your money so far it means you haven’t yet got in touch with your habitual behavior. May be you give money and then wait for the other person to return money on its own. Lending money is not bad but such habitual behavior can keep you away from your own money. A lot of people stop lending money after one or two bad experiences because they feel they are now wounded. Instead of stopping to help people financially why not examine your habitual behavior that prevails in your relationship with money.

7. Check what’s behind the curtain

A friend of mine approached me once for money. I asked him why he wants money and he said, “I want to pay salary to my employees and so I am in need of money”. I immediately told him money is not your problem, poor cash-flow management is your real problem and so let’s fix that so that you never find yourself in such situation. People who borrow money always see money as ultimate solution to their problem, but as a lender you have to check what’s hiding behind the curtain. I personally feel that providing such powerful guidance is much more powerful than just lending money.

Conclusion – Pick phone and get clarity

If you have given money to someone we invite you to initiate fresh set of conversation with that person and share your experience with us on the blog. Also, if you are someone who needs to return money to someone, pick up the phone and bring clarity with that person. We have used the word debate in the title because to lend or not to lend is a personal choice. Lending is not bad; asking for your own money is not pressurizing. The intention behind this article is to make you aware before you lend money to someone so that you do not become victim lender.

Work on your financial life with our Online Facebook Bootcamp Support

Lastly, our 7th Batch of boot camp is starting from 19th of May, if you want to learn from other committed group of investors and want to jump start your new journey as an investor, don’t miss to participate in our upcoming boot camp. (We want to sell this program to every investor on this planet)

This article is written by Nandish Desai along with Arnab Mitra. The Co-author of this article is Arnab Mitra who is based out of Kolkata; he works as IT Technology Consultant at Cognizant Technology Solutions Ltd (CTS).

Please share your inputs and your experiences about lending to friends and relatives in comments section please.

Are you Overestimating your future income and getting into debt trap ?

Posted on by Jagoinvestor

Today I want to discuss a problem which is part of almost everyone’s life and creates some really big issues. I am talking about the problem of “Over Estimating your Future Income” . Yes – A lot of people take their current life decisions, based on what they feel about their future career and future income.

over estimation of future income

My Salary Hike

When I was working in Yahoo, Bangalore around 2008, I saw all the newcomers around me “expecting” their salary hike to be around 20% and 25%, and guess what – It actually happened.

Then in 2nd year, the same people “estimated” that they deserve a minimum 15-20% salary hike at any cost, because they have given their best. It happened again ! .

Then in the 3rd year, they got into the same – “I think my salary hike this year will be .. ” game and by then these people were using maxing out their credit card limits, had bought all the financial products for tax saving and committed to pay huge premium, at times as high as 80,000 per annum. They were all living a life which they deserved after 7-8 yrs of their career.

Then there was a layoff in Yahoo and some people got FIRED (some were my friends)

One guy had almost finalized a home loan, obviously based on his “future income”. Another guy could not pay his credit card bills for next 3 months, because there was no money (he eventually got another job in few months) . And most of them wished if they had saved a bit more, it would have been a better situation.

We focus on positive side, but not on negative’s

The incident I explained above looks fine at the start of career, there is less to loose. But just imagine the depth of this problem. This shapes our financial life.

If you have been working for many years now, you probably have lots of things to achieve in life and due to peer pressure, you can go overboard on your expenses, just by assuming that your future is too bright. The issue is not that we look at the brighter side, the issue is that we look “only” on the brighter side – the salary hike, the promotion, the better salary if we switch companies, the extra bonus which we will get, and then the side income which we can generate along with job .. etc

We do not look at the negative side seriously or just under rate them. We feel job loss is something which happens to others, not us! . The accidents can never happen to us. We cant loose our wealth due to some reason. What about a sudden medical emergency which can wipe out your wealth, what about “No Salary hike” this year , what about “bonus below the expectation” , what about a Fraud which creates a big hole in your pocket?

When we see our future from current situation, it looks like a straight line without any issue or problems, we extrapolate our smooth past into future and every thing looks promising. However the reality is full of surprises, and problems. Things can go terribly wrong and it can really damage your plans in life. How serious it will be depends on how much over estimation you have done for your future income. The image below clearly explains what I want to say here.

your plan in life vs reality

I posted this same point about “overestimation of future income” on my facebook wall, and I got a very good reply from Vishnu Prasath, which I feel everyone should read, below is that reply

Vishnu Prasath reply for overestimation of future income

In our 6 weeks online Investors Bootcamp, one of the weeks is about getting clarity of your current situation and where you stand in your financial life. With the help of an amazing excel sheet, participants are able to find out 12 insights which are related to their financial life, it tells them key hidden points about their financial life.

Yeah .. I am starting my business !

Let me also touch upon the point – “starting my own business”. When you do calculations and plan for your business potential, MS Excel makes you millionaire on paper and shows you all the rosy picture. However things are so different in real life. Assume a person, who is going to leave his job and going to start a business/startup . He forcasts the cashflows and profits and declares that in next 1 yr itself he will break even and start making money. Life will be on track again, but in reality – it can take 4-5 yrs. There can be losses, things can go totally wrong ..

In that case, imagine the situation, the stress the family will go through , the “I told you so … ” the person has to be hear every month. This is one real life example almost all the not-yet-successful entrepreneurs can relate to .

How we spend more and more Today

So because we over-estimate our future income, we buy bigger car, bigger Home, we go on more longer and premium vacations, and commit to higher EMI’s which looks possible considering our future income and cash flows. I do not want to sound like a pessimist here, I am not saying don’t be confident in life or career, one always have to do a calculative move and take decisions based on some assumptions, but some people go over board and damage their future at the cost of today. On that point I want to focus on two main points – which are

We are Consuming more today and not leaving much for future

The biggest problem I see today in most of the people financial life is that they are consuming a lot on the name of “Life is here to Enjoy” .. Yes – its a crime if you dont enjoy your life despite earning so much, but there is a limit to it. There is a always a cieling to your spending. If your yearly salary package is Rs 8 lacs, then you should NOT be spending all 8 lacs , because you “feel” , next year your package will rise to 10 lacs and “at that time” you will save more. If your salary is 8 lacs per year, you should start with Rs 5 lac car, and not Rs 16 lacs car, because your future looks bright. It just does not work that way in most of the cases.

Getting into Debt Trap

Another issue is that, When things dont turn out as per your expectations, you also feel very disappointed and frustrated and start comparing your imagination with reality. Just because you assume future is too bright, you spend on those things, which you dont really need today, but have potential to pay. You also over spend and this is also a cause at times for Debt Trap, you get into a small debt first, you assume its normal and next month you will take care of it, and then it never happens and after 3 yrs, you feel you should have controlled yourself in the start itself.

One of the guys commented his real life experience on one of the facebook groups I am part of. Here is what he said

The biggest problem with our generation is that we overestimate our future cash flows,, think ourselves entitled to expensive lifestyle due to easy credit and fall prey to EMI trap rationalizing it with our increasing incomes every year. I represent this generation and have badly suffered the consequences of overestimating my future earnings.

I took personal loan for construction of my home, then took top up loan next year when my salary increase  and put it in interior and then again took maximum personal loan that I was entitled to for my sister’s marriage next year rationalizing every time that my income will only increase every year in my job.
But then I left job to start a business with one of my friends and all hell broke loose. All my cash flows dried up, debts increased and

I was reduced to begging for money. I had to live on borrowed money for more than a year. All my aggression,confidence,self image and big talks took a bad beating. It was hell of a time. Now I hate debt and credit of any kind. It is slavery, bondage and evil.

You never know when things can go wrong for no reason or for no mistake of yours. Think a hundred times before committing yourself for high EMI, high tenure loans.

(Source : Asan Ideas for Wealth Facebook Group)

How long can you survive financially if you loose your job ?

So you must be wondering about your own case right now. Let me ask a very simple question – “If you loose your job, how many months or year can you survive without working?” . This is a powerful and disturbing question at the same time. If you have been working for many years, and your answer to this question is in months, then there is some issue.

Whats the right way ?

There is no right or wrong way here, there is only logical way. You always have to keep a balance in your spending and saving. You can surely expect the future to be good and bright, but make sure you do not over leverage to a limit which turns out to be a disaster if things go wrong. Also think about situations which are negative and then take a balanced decision.

Let me know what are your comments on this topic ? Have you ever faced any issue because you over estimated things ?

Taking Personal Loan to help a friend ? How it can impact your financial life ?

Posted on by Jagoinvestor

“Friendship is Forever” – One of the best relationships in this world is Friendship . You are close to your friends  more than your relatives or in some cases even family members. You can go miles to help your friends, spend time and effort for them or even help them financially at times. But there is difference between helping a close friend and any friend.

Personal Loan for friend

Some investors are very casual about their financial decisions which they take for their friends or any relative who is not very much close to them. Its the social pressure or the want of “looking good” in front of others which leads to this situation. Now I do not say that you should not do favors for your friends . Even if you are having some loss, its fine at times to help your friends financially , but just make sure you are aware about its impact on your financial life. It should not happen that you repent it later and regret it. For example one of the mails I recently got was this

My friend is in need of Rs 10L and i am planning to give him money by taking personal loan and going to collect interest which i am going to pay for personal loan. In this case i have not got any profit. Will there be any tax for interest collected from my friend. (source)

This guy was going to take a personal loan for his friend on his name (or swiping credit card and taking cash later from friend) and collect the EMI part from friend and pay it back . Now it was a help because the other friend might be in need of money and being a good friend he was helping. But the problem was that he was not aware what it could mean to his financial life.

Impact on Credit Report in this case !

In this case , if you see there will be a entry in his CIBIL report about the personal loan part and being a unsecured loan, its not a very positive thing on someone’s Credit Report . Now what if after 2-3 yrs he needs a home loan and the lender does not want to lend him because he has a personal loan on his credit report ? The assumption is that friend will pay the EMI to him on time , but what if the friend loses the job ? What if something happens to friend like accident or sudden death?

What if loan is not repaid on time and then your DPD sections on Credit Report is messed up . The impact of this on the loan eligibility will be high and one will really regret it later, but then it would be too late. Below are some more experiences of lending to friends and relatives and then suffering later …

Hitesh shares his personal experience

Yes. I have helped a friend in his financial down for continuous 3 years.I have taken personal loan for him on my name which is still running and he does not pay EMI regularly (but I do).Because of delay in getting EMI’s from him my financial situation got worsen by months.

Above all that i have given him money very frequently and all my plannings went on toss. Because of friendship i have been digged down under as i have not got full money back yet. Personal loan taken will end in November 2014.

I want to apply for home loan next year i.e March 2014 and after reading this i am in very uncertain state though i maintain a cibil score of 720.

Brundaban shares his experience..

I’m also a victim of this painful personal loan lending to a friend. In 2007 i gave a friend 10lakh as personal loan, everything went on smoothly, but after 6 months the real drama started, he didn’t pay the EMI in time so i had to pay penalty with interest, sometimes i used to pay from my salary, it was totaly difficult for me to pay the EMI as it constitutes 70% of my salary then, still i was getting frequent calls from banks to pay.

When i opposed he didnt pay the loan, switch off his mobile, even told he dont know me,so i thought that i wont pay now, then stopped payment, and after going to his home many times he agreed to settle the loan, and finally settled on 2010, with a condition that i’ll pay him 2 lakh, even i did that, still i’ve not recovered the same amount from him, now if someone even ask me for 5K i think 100 times, bocz of this situation, so suggest friends dont give any personal laon to anybody!!!!

Divya’s experience

I have the experience-its painful. My brother gave 7L rs to his close friend. he did not take it from his pocket-he has taken two loans, and gave. and one fine day, he committed suicide, reason- the friend ditched him. He did not bother about the money-what bothered him was the breach of trust that he had in his close to heart friend.We lost him. his wife and kids are orphaned. Never help anyone out of your way. we can make up for the money lost- but the person we lost, we can never get him back.

Sivamohan shares his experience

Some years back my father helped my uncle my getting him some loan from a local lender(at very high interest) and by becoming a guarantor for his son’s educational loan. My uncle was not able to repay the loan and my father ended up paying the principle and interest. And since this incident our family relationship has become very sour. Recently my father received a letter from the bank saying his son hasn’t paid the educational loan back. We often wonder all things would have been fine if my father had just said no.

What other casual decisions investors taken for friends ?

  • They become guarantor for their friends without understanding its impact – Read more about it
  • They transfer money to and fro to each other accounts, without understanding its tax implications – Read more
  • They handover their important documents to friends without realising how they can be misused by someone if the intention is wrong – read more about it
  • Lending them money and not asking it back thinking that relations will soar – But the point is if you do not have space to talk freely about asking money back – the friendship is already on the rocks then !
  • Buying financial products from friends who are agents or brokers and then paying the premiums for useless products for years and destroying your wealth creation process.

At times, you do not have a choice, but to go a ahead and help a friend even if it means some problem for you, thats fine . But in cases where the other party can be said – NO , or the impact of your decision on your financial life can be bad , which you can not afford, you have to think hard and take tough decision

Have you done any financial help of friends and what do you think about it ?

Dont get fooled by High CTC offered by your employer

Posted on by Jagoinvestor

It was campus placement month, and although everyone declared that they wanted to do quality work once they were placed, they also harbored a secret desire to get placed at the highest salary. When we used to look at our pocket money and compare it with the salary “package” offered by companies, we used to feel we would sleep on bundles of notes.

The top students of my batch were placed at extremely high pay packages, and they were proud to have “cracked” it. However the average students and other not so lucky ones had to settle for lower pay packages.

The “Very Happy” and “Only Happy” students left for the next phase of their life. The bitter truth however, only emerged after a year or two – that the take home salary of most of the students was not that different from the rest. While the students who got high packages were obviously earning more than the others, the difference was only marginal.

The CTC (Cost To Company) numbers had fooled us!

CTC vs Take Home salary

What is CTC (Cost to Company)

What was happening was that the companies were exploiting our human craving for “Instant Gratification”. Job Seekers want big salary numbers – its’ a benchmark which they use to compare themselves with others. It feels nice to say, ”my package is 12 lakhs per annum”, even if you only get 58,000 per month in hand.

CTC or cost to company is what a company spends on you. If something is an “Expense” for a company because of you, its part of your CTC, as simple as that. So starting from the air conditioning you use at office, to the food you eat at office, everything can be part of CTC. Here is one how one of our readers Nandan feels

I fell for a similar trap while joining an IT MNC recently (from another which was equally good at inflating its VP compoment). It’s been only 3 months now since I joined this company and the worst part is that the take home I get now is almost same as that I was getting in my earlier company (though on paper the CTC is having 35% hike over the previous company CTC) – Link

5 tricks to increase CTC numbers and give wrong impression to employees

There are several ways companies can inflate the CTC Numbers and give you an impression that you are getting the best deal, only for you to realize later that the other job was better. Let me now show you some ways companies increase the CTC numbers.

Trick 1 – Including their EPF share inside the CTC itself

The first time I saw my salary slip, I was somewhat shocked to see that my employer was deducting the ‘employer’s share’ of EPF from my salary. I was wondering – “If it’s the employer’s share – why are they deducting it from my salary?” It was only later that I realized that this was merely a simple trick to inflate the CTC. They could have just reduced my CTC by an amount equal to employer share of EPF and could have paid it separately, but then my CTC would be lower– even though I would have been getting the same salary at the end of the day.

Trick 2 – Adding One time Bonus in CTC at the time of joining

When I joined my first job (and the last one), I was very pleased to hear my CTC; it was amongst the highest packages on campus. But then my salary in hand correlated poorly with the CTC figure. In my mind, I had divided my CTC by 12 on the day of placement and was on the top of world. Though what happened in reality was that I was supposed to get a one time joining bonus (that too after many months), and that figure was added to the final CTC – inflating the number substantially. It was only for first year, not a regular thing !

Trick 3 – Adding Stock Options in CTC

Another simple trick employers play is to add your Stock Options to your CTC. Stock Options again are not a regular payment source, however they do increase the CTC considerably. You can learn about stock options, RSU’s and ESPP here in this article.

Trick 4 – Adding Insurance Facilities, Food coupons, Transport Facilities to CTC

At the end of every month, we used to get food coupons from our company. We also had payments made by the company towards yearly life insurance and medical insurance. The thing is, you do not get these things as CASH, but instead as benefits. However, the company adds all these to your CTC figure, as it is paying for it.

Trick 5 – Putting Large chunk of variable component in CTC

Another famous trick played by companies (especially those in sectors that are performance based) is to add a considerable amount of variable component to the salary and keep the fixed part small. The CTC number is then provided based on an average performance assumption. For example if your CTC was Rupees 10 lakhs, it could happen that 4 lakhs of the CTC would be FIXED and the remaining 6 lakhs would be variable. The part of the variable component ultimately paid to you could go down or up depending on your performance or some parameter that supposedly would be under your control. It could be sales, the number of clients you bring in etc. etc.

Start-ups vs Giant MNC companies – Difference in Salary Structure

In my limited experience, pay packages offered by startups or smaller companies are more or less transparent, and artificial increases in CTC are limited. Dividing the CTC figure offered by them into a monthly number will get you very near to your take home salary – though it will obviously be lower. However, in the case of larger companies, the CTC number is inordinately inflated and your eventual take home salary might give you the feeling – “Seems like there is some mistake in the calculation”.

Joining other company for higher Salary ?

Just because you are getting a higher package in some other company, does not automatically mean that your take home salary will increase by the same margin. It may happen that your take home salary increases by very little, or in the worst case scenario, stays exactly where it was. What you should focus on, while moving to another job, is the additional increment in your take home component and not just the change in CTC.

In the image below you can see how a job with low CTC can lead to a higher take home salary – all because the package with the higher CTC was inflated by injecting various components.

High CTC vs take home salary

I hope from now on, you will focus more on the final take home and not be fooled by CTC numbers.

Any personal experiences?

3 reasons why you enjoyed Pocket money more than your Salary !

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Just put your hand on your heart and ask yourself what did you enjoy more! – Your Pocket Money which you used to get or your current Salary? I have asked this simple question to many people and the majority of them said “Pocket Money”. Yes, that is the answer I have got!.

That small amount that we used to receive from our parents or guardians was managed very well by us. We had very little knowledge about money or anything in life, but still, we were highly effective and careful with our pocket money, compared to what we are today with our salary or overall financial life. A lot of you might be giving pocket money to your kids or to some family members, just see how effectively they are with managing money. Here are 9 tips to make your kids respect money

Pocket Money vs Salary

Why we enjoyed our pocket money compared to Salary?

Here are some of the reasons why we enjoyed and took care of pocket money in a much better way than our salary today are as follows.

Reason 1#: You were so excited to receive it

The amount was not important but we were excited to receive the pocket money that we use to get. When you receive salary you feel – “That idiot is paid more than me, this company really does not care for me, I am really underpaid”. All these conversations inside your mind actually kill your excitement. You are unable to enjoy the money that comes into your life and obviously you can’t manage what you are not very excited about. As kids we never compared, we loved what we got, we were so content. We would put a small amount in our piggy bank and would make the most out of the money that we received. The pocket money was a GIFT!

Reason # 2: We were absolutely clear on what we will do with our pocket money

When the mind is clear it helps you take good decisions. Each month we knew what we will do with our pocket money. Before the pocket money came in our pocket, we knew where it’s going to go and how much!. We knew what to buy from our school or college canteen? How many movies we can watch? What to buy for our friends on their birthdays? It was making the most of the resources that got into our life.

Reason #3: We were accountable to someone

At the back of our minds, we knew that we are answerable to someone. We were accountable to the people who gave us pocket money. I remember buying stuff from my school canteen was so much fun. Today you are not accountable to anyone in your financial life. You start your SIPs without asking anyone and even stop or redeem them without asking anyone. I always suggest our financial coaching clients get accountable in their financial life. I ask them to see their spouse as their co-pilot. Imagine your wife won’t allow you to step into the house until you buy your term plan? Imagine your wife won’t allow you to enter the house till you don’t start your investments? Can you see the rigor it can bring into your overall financial life?

Pocket Money vs Salary – The Experiences and Feelings

When I get on a call with my clients, I keep asking them to share with me what kind of feeling they had when they got their pocket money and when they used to handle it and the same thing for the Salary they get. Here is the kind of responses I get from them. I am sure these would be true even for your case.

Pocket Money vs Salary Comparision

We want you all to do this exercise. Make a table and on one side write your experiences with your pocket money and on the other side your salary.

Here is an amazing sharing from a reader Pankaj Kapadia on his experience

When I had Rs.500/ in my pocket.in 1993…I used to feel that i was richest man on the earth. I could buy pepsi Rs.2.5/-, watch movie 15/-. have bhelpuri 3/- . Give party to all friends 100/- travel by bus Rs.2/- and still had funds. Now with 50k salary and 20k emi, 8k school fees, 5k maintainance , 20k groccery bills I am left with nothing. From life of my own now I have kids and wife to look after along with parents. I am responsible for 4 more financial dependents and hence all their dreams are mine. Their education, clothes, entertainment, illness are mine.

I agree pocket money gave me more satisfaction and salary less. I also admit my son with rs.100/month is much more happier than myself. It has more to do with carrying responsibility on my shoulder. My dad did for me and I must do it for my childrens

Conclusion

It is really not important how much money comes into your life what really matters is how happy you are to receive that amount and how grateful you are with that amount and what exactly you do with the financial resources that come in your life because that’s what is in your direct control. The experience we had while we received pocket money and our first salary was the same, we can choose to have similar experience all our life if we want to. Today the good news is that you are your own boss and the bad news is that YOU are your own boss in your financial life. Report to someone what you are doing and not doing in your financial life.

We have created 100moneyactions.com program so that you can be dedicate your 20 weeks for your financial life and complete almost all your financial life actions pending till date. This will really bring in a lot of accountability and will source your financial life with action. Do share how you are going to bring in a NEW level of excitement in managing your salary money the way you use to enjoy your pocket money.

This article is written by Nandish Desai.

5 signs which proves your financial life sucks and you are screwed up

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Is your financial life going well? Are you on the growth path or on the verge of disaster very soon? Your financial life might be in trouble, but maybe there is some more time left before you really take charge of your financial life and really do something about it, else it will crumble and you will be destroyed beyond recovery.

signs of bad financial life

I see lots of people who are not in agreement with the fact that their financial life sucks and they really need to take giant leaps. Somewhere they are comfortable with the whole situation and keep expecting that “somehow” their financial life will improve. So, I am giving you 5 simple indicators, which you can look at and decide if you are headed towards financial disaster or not. The more these indicators are true for your financial life, the bigger is the problem and you need to get really serious about it. If none of these indicators are true for you, then congratulations! , you are mostly in a good situation.

Sign 1 – You cant live for 3 months without a job

The first and the biggest sign of disastrous financial life is that you cant live for a few months if you do not bring money on the table through your job or business. If you have been earning for a few years now, you should at least have a year’s worth of income saved with you, but that’s not the case with many people. Their monthly expenses make sure they are left with nothing at the end of the month. Worse, many people have the negative cash-flow and they are piling up debt each month to survive. These people are mostly dependent on credit cards and keep using them whenever they are in a “crisis” situation. The credit card should be held for benefits + reward points and not because of its a survival tool for you.

Ask yourself, how many months’ salary have you drawn to date in last so many years and how many worths of salary you have saved till now? If you cant survive for more than 3 months (or 4-6 months), you are in big trouble. I asked this same question on my facebook wall a few weeks back and I got responses like “6 months”, “3 months”, “10 yrs” and all kinds of numbers. So better look at your number of months. Do not focus on income alone, because income is not the same as wealth.

How many months can you survive without the job ?

Sign 2 – You find it tough to get a higher paying job

Your job/business is the means to bring money to the table each month. Every year or in few years, ideally you should be able to move one ladder up and command a high salary because over the years you will gain experience, add new skills and would be wiser/knowledgeable. However, if you cant move upwards in your professional life, the amount of money you will bring back home will not increase and if that’s the case, you are in trouble.

Ask yourself – Do you see yourself earning 10X of your current salary someday in the future like the next 5-10-15 yrs or not? Are you dead scared of losing your job and never be able to find another? Do you feel that you have reached a level in your professional life, where if you lose your current job, you will find it tough to get the same salary job somewhere else?

If that sounds your case, you are in trouble financially because your biggest asset is your earning capability and not your this year’s pay package only? If it sounds your story, its time to find out how you can increase your skills and take better jobs in coming times, don’t wait for the last moment, it takes few years to hone your skills!.

Sign 3 – You are paying back EMI’s for depreciating assets

There is two kind of debt – good debt and bad debt. Any debt which helps you build assets and grows in value over time is better (I am not saying, go for it, but it’s just better than the bad debt). The bad debt is mainly the debt which is used for CONSUMPTION purpose. You use it and its gone. Examples are personal loans, consumer durable loans, credit card debt or even a car loan(especially the car, which you really don’t need, you can do with a two-wheeler, I am not talking about the car which is really required and can’t live without), then you are paying an outsider on a regular basis, without building any assets for yourself.

It’s like – you are doing the job to help others squeeze money out of you. If you are doing this, better stop it now and see how you can change your direction, you still might have the time to come back on track.

Sign 4 – It has been 5 yrs working, but you have nothing worth called “ASSETS”

You have worked for 5 yrs in the job, now even if you had saved 2 months’ worth of salary each year, you must have had 10 months’ worth of salary with you saved today? Is it there? You must be having some investments in Fixed Deposits, or some gold, or some mutual funds or at-least a small part of your future house down-payments which you are fantasizing about? Is it with you or you have blown up? In my 1st book – “16 personal finance principles every investor should know”, I have explained in the first chapter how the early start of your financial life can break or make the rest of your financial life. Grab it and read it.

Ask yourself, how much you can show off for the last 5 yrs of earning? Just add up all the salary you have drawn in last 5 yrs (let’s say at 4 lacs per year, its 20 lacs in total 5 yrs), how much you currently have in assets? Even if you have saved 3-5 lacs, I would say its fine. But if you are still trying to locate where has all that gone, it’s not a good sign. Remember, how do you start your financial life can be an indicator of your whole financial life. Dont neglect the first 5 yrs of your financial life because it matters a lot.

Sign 5 – You like to spend a lot of social functions!

Most of the people with the worst financial life in India are too social in nature (not vice versa). They keep spending on all the useless social functions either due to social pressure or by choice. Examples like – “How can I not celebrate my child’s 10th Birthday with a grand party, all relatives are looking forward to it” or “I have to gift something worth to this friend/relative because of reasons reasons reasons.

Social functions in India are one the largest wealth-destroying activities, which are not comparable to anything. Dont get me wrong, I know you need to celebrate marriage, birthday, anniversaries and that’s an important part of life, but when it stops being celebration and becomes showoff and obscene display of imaginary status (which others know very well that you are faking), it’s utter nonsense and destroys your financial life. Please stop it

I know the current young generation does not believe too much into showoff and useless social functions, but due to parents’ pressure and mindset, even children have to kneel down at times and cant avoid this social spending’s even if they hate it from the core of their heart. Ask those children, who are struggling to buy a house because they do not have money and their parents blew up 30 lacs on their wedding to invite 800 people (500 of them you meet the first time in your life and they eat maximum ice-cream at food counters). What a joke !. A small bold decision would have made so many lives easy.

It would be a good idea for you to write down how much % of your income to date, have you spent on social functions (which you could have avoided) in the last 5 yrs. If its more than 2 %, I am sorry for you.

I must mention that all the views are my personal based on my ideologies, If you don’t agree with some point, You are equally right and much like anyone else. The points are general in nature and might not be 100% true for every person’s case.

Take some bold step

I can tell you from my experiences – Most people have bad financial life and they do not do anything about it, because it’s not affecting them in the short term.  Every additional bad decision does not hurt their next day, the food will still be on the table, the next movie will still be watched and the small Sunday outing will still happen, but how long if you continue having these 5 signs in your financial life? In our 3rd book – “11 principles to achieve financial freedom” written by Nandish, the coach helps a guy in changing his mindset about his financial life and helping him think like a pro in his financial life, Its an amazing book I would say which no investor should miss.

You need to take some massive action, some really bold step, it has to be 20 times stronger than what you have in mind, you have to really upset few people in your life and have to embrace discomfort for few years. Just a tiny “try” will not help. Imagine you get a deadline from your employer that you can only work for the next 5 yrs and then you will not get any job in the whole world for the next 3 yrs, how will you prepare for this situation? That’s your game plan now!

How you become a loser when you pay in black for your real estate property ?

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Naresh recently visited a new residential project in Pune which was ready for possession. The property cost was in his budget and he was about to finalize the deal. The total cost of property was around Rs 40 lacs. Stamp duty and Registration cost was to be paid separately which would take total cost to around 43 lacs. This was a bit heavy on Naresh pocket, so out of his regular habit, he inquired if there is any trick by which he can save some money on the deal ?

Bought house by paying in black

The builder was quick to give him a great saving advice – “Sir , You have to pay 6% stamp duty and 1% registration cost on the agreement price. Which comes to 7% of 40 lacs, thats 2.8 lacs additional, thats the reason the total cost comes around 43 lacs . Now if you want to save money, what you can do is pay some part of the deal in cash to us (means pay in black) and we will reduce the agreement cost by that much, that way – we will also save our tax on the black money part and you will save 7% on that cash amount. Like if you pay us Rs 10 lacs in Cash, then we will make the agreement for Rs 30 lacs only and you will have to pay stamp duty and registration cost on only 30 lacs which will be 2.1 lacs, and it will save you Rs 70,000 without doing anything extra ! . Cool na ! .”

The offer was tempting and Naresh fell for it, how cool is saving Rs 70,000 , all you need to do is pay some part in cash and lower the agreement amount in records. But do you understand, what is your loss in long term because of this kind of deal ? Let me break some hearts today, who have already done this mistake while buying their properties.

Stamp duty and Registration Costs

First understand that stamp duty and registration costs vary from one state to other state. For example – In Maharashtra, its 6% + 1% = 7% in total , so whatever is your total agreement cost , you will have to bear additional 7% on that amount as stamp duty + registration costs. Given the huge amount involved and the financial crunch every buyer faces at the last moment of the deal and hunger of builders to save every bit of tax, makes sure that buyers fall for this trick of paying huge amount in CASH (black money) and register the property at lower price just for few thousands (actually sizable if you look at it). This looks like win-win situation to buyers and they are pretty happy about it, however truly speaking, this is a loosing deal for the buyers in a very long run (if you are going to sell the property later) and only benefits the builders and let me now explain you why is it so ?

At the time of selling – The cost of house matters

I hope you are very clear that when you sell your property in future , you pay the tax on the profits made. And the profit is decided by your COST of the house and the sell price. So lower the cost of your house, the higher the profits on paper for you in future. You might be aware of the fact that indexation is applied in case of real estate transactions and 20% tax is paid on the profit.

Now lets take this same example we are discussing and see how much you save at the time of purchase and how much you loose at the time of selling , which can be in distant future. See the working below and try to understand the whole situation

How paying black money in real estate transaction can lead to loss in long term

In the example above you can clearly see that by paying Rs 10 lacs in cash, a person is able to save Rs 70,000 instantly. However they are not able to look beyond the obvious and visualize the kind of loss they will incur in future when they decide to sell the property. The same person will pay 3.4 lacs of additional tax in future because he/she paid Rs 10 lacs in cash years back.

Now there are few points which can be debated here like there can be changes in laws in future, or one can save the tax by investing in another real estate properties (which again depends on future laws) , but the point here is to educate you on the long term implications    of this. Now if you fully understand the message of this post, you can take your decisions with full responsibility.

Whats your take on this ?

Mistake in your Medical report while taking Term Plan – Real Life Experience

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What happens when your hospital goofs up and your term plan premium goes up because of that mistake? When you take a term plan, the insurance company either asks you to take up medical test in some hospital or a doctor comes to your home and does the checkup. Things mostly go well and at times some kind of health issue comes up, and you say

“Ahh … you say, I didn’t know there was this issue, Thank God! a medical test was done.”

Then the insurance company increases the premium because there was some issue in your medical report. You pay the increased premium, feeling secure now that things are black and white. But, what if the medical report was wrong because of some mistake the hospital made? What if there was a TYPING Error? Yes! It happens and we have a real life experience today.

wrong medical report term insurance plan

Nitin shared his experience on our Question and Answer forum while buying his term plan from HDFC and Aviva. Below are his experiences

Experience while buying HDFC Click2Protect

After some analysis I found below 2 plans suitable for my term insurance needs: [list style=”check”]

  • HDFC Click2Protect
  • AVIVA i-Life

After considering some factors, I had chosen HDFC Click2Protect and applied for it. My medical test has been performed in 4-5 days. Few days later I got notification from HDFC that my proposal is postponed because of ‘elevated level in my blood sugar’. It was a shocking news for me because I am a healthy person and never had any problem (touch wood). I called hospital people (where my medical check-up was conducted) and after request they informed me that my sugar level count is 173 (normally it should be between 70-100). I still not believed that and went for medical check-up again by myself and found sugar level count is 72(which is normal).

Then I decided to go for AVIVA i-life plan and applied for the policy. Fortunately/Unfortunately, my medical examination was scheduled at same hospital, where it was conducted before for HDFC. This time I carried my medical report (which I had done by myself) and asked hospital about the reason for differences in both reports. According to their report my count was 173 & according to my report count was 75. They checked again and found that it was a TYPING MISTAKE, actual count was 73 but they wrote it 173 by mistake.

Now, because of this mistake HDFC postponed my application & also my insurance records gets affected. Hospital GM apologies for the mistake and sent clarification note to HDFC about the mistake. Currently, my AVIVA application is under processing.

Lesson Learnt & Message DON’t trust on any medical report if it looks surprised for you. Please double check it with multiple doctors or Hospital if you think it is not correct and challenge it.

After this incident, he went for Aviva Term plan and the same kind of issue happened this time also. Below is the experience.

Experience while buying Aviva Term Plan

My medical examination for AVIVA ilife plan happened in same hospital (where I had for HDFC C2P plan). After few days, I got information from AVIVA that they have raised my premium by 50% because of ‘Increased liver enzymes’ in my body and waiting for the balance payment to issue a policy. It’s again a shocking news for me, since I didn’t expect it this time. But the good thing is that AVIVA has shared my medical report with me. I checked with 2-3 doctors about my report and according to them this increase in liver enzymes is possible for those people who drink alcohol or having fever in last 1 months.

But for my case, I don’t take alcohol nor having any fever in last months, so doctor suspect that this time also report may be not correct. So again, I went for a medical test (only for Liver part this time) by myself and found that my liver report is NORMAL (as expected). I informed AVIVA about the same and also shared my Normal medical report. After 2-3 days, finally got mail today that they have issued my policy without any extra premium. Hmmmmm……buying a online term insurance looks like winning a war for me.

Important Points Regarding Medical Tests

  • Make sure you do minimum 12 hours of Fast before the medical tests
  • After doing the medical tests, check if you can get the medical test copies or at least the results
  • For any point you are concerned about, better take a second opinion from another clinic
  • If possible, go for medical tests once again at your own cost to double check if you suspect anything

Did you double check your medical reports which you did for your term plan or health insurance plan? If not, its time to just have a second look and check if you are fine with it.

Why you should stop looking at ‘Past Performance’ in Mutual Funds

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One day, a calf needed to cross a forest in order to return to its pasture. No one before this had ever ventured in to the forest. Without any rational, it forged out a long and difficult path full of bends, uneven ground and steep climbs. The next day, a dog took the same path following the calf’s footprints and a flock of sheep followed. As the path started taking some sort of visible shape, men started using the same and gradually, it became a well defined, accepted and the only way to cross the forest.

After many years, the trail became the main road to the village. Everyone complained about the traffic, cursed the long distance and treacherous turns, up and down hills but never thought of a better alternative. The old and wise forest smiled at how men tend to easily accept the way already open, without ever questioning whether it’s really the best choice.

In the same way, if you look at, the mutual funds’ investors. They seem trapped in a similar kind of concept called as – The Past Performance.

past performance not correct way of predection

Past Performance as selection Criteria

Since quite some time, Past Performance has become a major criterion if not the Holy Grail of the mutual fund selection system. In fact, one of the leading business magazines in association with one of the leading rating agencies went ahead and mentioned “We take into account a much longer period for mutual fund evaluation as that can serve as a serious guide to future performance”… (Their long term means 3 years in this particular case and they used return and risk adjusted  numbers for analysis)

Further, rather than challenging the concept, there has been a continuous debate if investors should look at 1-3 year performance or a longer period like 5 years to make mutual fund selections. The treacherous path to the village is already created.

Proponents of the long-history case argue that a long term analysis ensures that the performance is analyzed over various market cycles and if the fund has done well across the long term horizon, it stands a good chance to do so in future.

Sounds logical. Is it really?

I wanted to examine if it really works. For me and for others like me who would like to know the truth and may be many more whose investments have been in red, thanks to these ratings. I gathered historical data of equity mutual fund schemes and worked out the numbers. (3rd chapter of my first book also has same kind of data)

The results were startling !

The core of the finding is “Past performance hardly relates to future returns”… and here we are, pumping our hard earned money into mutual funds, depending  on these ratings that rely heavily on the past returns generated.

Analysis Details

  • The top 5 schemes by their 1yr, 2 yr, 3yr, 4 yr and 5 yr returns were selected. Thus 5 portfolios consisting of Top 5 schemes were created.
  • The performance of these 5 portfolios was observed over the next 1 year (e.g. say for Dec-09 analysis, the return for 2010 was observed).
  • Steps 1 & 2 were repeated every quarter for the past 3 years. The objective was to establish if the relationship with past performance that exists consistently over the period of time.

Findings & Explanation

Equity mutual funds past performance

How to read this Chart ?

The graph shows 5 bars, each bar represents the average next 1 year return generated by the portfolio created on the basis of historical returns. The left most bar shows how much average return was generated by portfolio created on the basis of scheme’s past 1 year return; the second bar is the return of the portfolio created by past 2 year return and so on.

So say the analysis is done on Dec-09, the past 1 year refer to 2009 and the returns are calculated for 2010.The above graph shows aggregate returns of the analysis done every quarter.

The graph ‘suggests’ that the ranking by past 2 years is of greatest significance while the ranking by 5 years is least significant. Please note that this is just an observation and not a conclusion. Statistics is a sensitive subject and any data tortured, throws some outputs. It’s important to delve deeper and see if the outputs can be supported with reason and logic.

To validate if the inference really holds true and if it can be used for decision making, I dissected the data of all equity schemes into two parts: The Large Cap Schemes and The Mid/Small Cap schemes. The result of analysis conducted over Large and Midcap funds is presented in the charts below.

Large Cap mutual funds past performance

Mid Cap mutual funds past performance

Take that. While the large cap funds ‘seem-to-be’ driven by their past 4 year returns, the mid caps ‘seem-to-be’ to be driven by their past 2 year returns. I have consciously quoted the word ‘seem-to-be’ as I can’t find a suitable reason to defend even these findings. There aren’t actually. For anything to be considered as a general rule, it should be consistently true. I couldn’t find that when I looked at individual analysis done quarter on quarter.

If I look at each analysis done across quarters, the 2 year return is not the significant driver of future returns always. A considerable number of times the other ones (1, 3, 4, 5 yr returns) gain importance. Just like “past performance” parameter, there are many other mistakes which an investor does in his financial life, and we have decided to talk on some other aspects like those in our upcoming workshop in Mumbai on 10th March. Incase you are in Mumbai, dont miss that event.

Dont use Past Performance to Predict Future

It is quite evident that the past returns cannot be a torch bearer for investment decisions. Following the past returns as a guide or using ratings that rely heavily on past returns is like shooting at a dart board in dark. For any doubts that remain, consider this

Reliance Equity Fund was the top performer in the Large Cap category in 2012, with a return of 41%. Did you know it was the worst performer amongst Large Cap funds by historical return? i.e. if you were in Dec-11 and would have picked up this fund’s historical analysis, it was the worst performer by 1y, 2y, 3y, 4y and 5y return.

Another best performer, SBI Bluechip Fund (2012 return: 38%), never beat more than 33% of its peers ranked by past 1y, 2y, 3y, 4y and 5y return as of Dec-11. Not surprisingly, a leading mutual fund star rating agencies top picks of 2011, underperformed the index in 2012. The agency boasts of using a good mix of longer period historical return and risk adjusted performance.

In my next blog, I shall discuss what can be the reasons of looking at past performance, where did the whole thought possibly evolve and where do  things  go wrong. The views expressed above are personal and for a change, I own them. All arguments and points welcome. I really value justified facts and accept only my wife’s opinions…!!!

PS: While I finished writing this, there is a news regarding S&P being sued for damages worth USD 5 Billion for misrepresenting the credit worthiness/rating of an issuer due to conflict of interest. (https://on.mktw.net/YRehB0)

Does it sound any bells?

About the Author

Sharad Singh, a serial-entrepreneur, has spent more than 14 years in the analytics domain and has done extensive big data work in finance. He runs Valuefy, an investment portfolio analytics firm that provides portfolio management solutions to BFSI clients. Valuefy has recently launched www.theFundoo.com, a niche portal that aims to make investment decisions easy and effective for individual investors. Sharad is an engineering graduate with PGDM from IIM, Ahmedabad.

Do you use past performance as one of the criteria when you select mutual funds ?