How much money is enough for you?
Do you know how much money is there in this world?
It’s $36.8 trillion (or 2569 Lakh Crores)
What if you get all this money? Imagine you wake up one day and your bank balance shows 2569 Lakh Crores. However, you also find that you are the only person left on this earth while every other person is missing.
All the malls, all the shops, all the movie theaters, all the entertainment parks, all the jewelry shops, all the real estate, all the fruits and restaurants and everything you can imagine is intact. It’s all available there.
So what can you do with all that money with you?
The answer is NOTHING.
You can’t do anything, because you can only exchange money with something and if you already have everything available on earth lying there and already available to you, the money just loses its role completely. That 2569 Lakh Crores with you is nothing but trash.
Coming back to our life, at the start we do not have much and money is something which can help us get access to lots of things in life. However, we move from having “Nothing” to “Something” to “Good enough” to “A lot” and then slowly “Almost everything we wanted”
In this transition over years, the importance of money comes down in our life. We already have most of the things we can wish for. You already have a house, a car, nice furniture, a second home, great vacations, eating out, etc. etc.
The Race of Earning Money
While money is very important in life, we are conditioned to think from our childhood that money is the solution to everything in life. We are subconsciously in this race of earning more and more money without setting a target. More is always better it seems.
Note that.
- There is a limited amount of food you can eat in this world
- There is a limited number of vacations you will take
- There is a limited number of houses you can live in
- There is a limited number of cars you can drive
- There is a limited number of things you need to have a great life
How much money do you need?
5 crores, 10 crores, 50 crores?
I strongly suggest that you need to target a number or a range after careful thought and then let that number define your speed. There has to be a number which is ENOUGH for you.
You will be able to lead a very good, desired lifestyle in that much money.
Trust me you will eat the same thing and dress quite in the same manner if you have 10 crores or 50 crores. Rakesh Jhunjunwala or Mukesh Ambani eats the same thing as you do.
It should not happen that you keep acquiring wealth in life, and later it turns out to be nothing more than trash.
The Dalai Lama when asked, what surprised him most about humanity, he said:
“Man.
Because he sacrifices his health in order to make money.
Then he sacrifices money to recuperate his health.
And then he is so anxious about the future that he does not enjoy the present;
the result being that he does not live in the present or the future;
he lives as if he is never going to die, and then dies having never really lived.”
So what is the role of money in your life?
You need to define how much money you are targeting to acquire in your life. How much money is enough for you? Are you in a mindless race, acquiring all the money you can imagine and later, think where did my 60 yrs go? Or you are going to define the range which you want to acquire?
Something like “10 crores” is good enough for me once I retire. This is important because whatever time you give to earn money can potentially go somewhere else.
- If you are working later hours for money, and coming home at 11:00 pm at night, then it means that you can’t wake up early and go for an exercise.
- If you are working in some other city away from your family to earn a better income, it means you can’t spend that much time with your loved ones
- If you are away from home during festivals so that you can earn/work extra, that means you are not going to spend that particular time with your family.
- If you are not attending a wedding for your close friend, because you don’t want to lose those 6 days of a pay cut, that means that you will have that money, but then you will not have that memory of your friend’s wedding
- If you are not taking your family to a nice vacation, then you will have that money in the bank, but you won’t have something to talk about years later when your kids grow.
Just like these examples above, there are multiple instances in life, where we have to decide between using our money and exchanging it with something.
Your Target = 1000 times your monthly Expenses
A simple calculation tells us that when a person accumulates around 400-500 times of their monthly expenses, they have enough to last for another 30 yrs.
This means that if you have monthly expenses of Rs 1 lacs per month, then 4-5 crores is a reasonable corpus for you. Let’s take 1000 times? So for a person, 10 crores if enough to last his lifetime (a very high-level calculation tells us that). In the same way, you should know what amount you are targeting for yourself.
So make sure you are clear about the importance of money in your life. While we have seen that a lot of people are not working hard enough to achieve all their financial goals targets, we see that a lot of people are putting too much emphasis on earning money and spending all their limited time into the race of earning money. While earning money is not bad in itself, make sure you know how much you need in life?
Question for you
I would like to know from you – “How far are you from your target?”. Do you think money has a bigger role to play in our happiness or a smaller role? Please comment below
Note: Note that I am not saying money is not important. I understand and acknowledge that money brings peace of mind, a sense of security and makes us powerful in away. I am only trying to give a perspective about the role of money in life. I am not saying that earning more money is bad or good. So in case you have hate comment, please read the article once again fully and point of the para or line which you want to debate on.
Great Article.
What if someone has just 250 times of Monthly expenses? Can he/she still take the plunge, assuming a 12% return can be generated from investing (12% of 250 = 30 months’ expenses, while withdrawal is only 12).
Do you know of people who have done that ?
250 times a bit on lower side to mentally feel financially free..
I would say 35X of yearly expenses which is 420 times is a more realistic number when one can also mentally feel secured!
Manish
1000X agreed but where should this money be that needs specification. Do you mean having 1000X in a bank account or fixed deposit or stocks where? Again if you get 1000x you want money to be working for you so how do you calculate how much you want on monthly basis?
You can have it anywhere, just that it shall be able to give you monthly cashflow at the end. If you have it in FD, you can withdraw the money .. or in mutual fund
This needs to be taught in schools from their childhood ….
Great Article …Thank you..
Thanks
Hello,
I liked the article and message.
I assume that, 1000 times of the monthly expenses are considered including the inflation over next 20-30 years after retirement. Then yes, it looks a good number, and should be sufficient.
Good article and logical thoughts.
Yes Gunesh
But remember that this 1000 times is when you want to retire.. Which means if your expenses at RETIREMENT are X , then you have wealth of 1000X !
Manish
I think it also depends on the location and community you live in. For example, I live in a remote indigenous village farming community. We have free water, and free food growing in nature or in our farms. We use money for things like used clothes (cheaper), medicine if needed, and for building a house if you don’t have one. And also electricity, but that bill is around the equivalent of $4 USD per month. Old people don’t really “retire” here, they keep active to not slow down, and they stay with their families. It’s certainly better than the rat race in my opinion.
We are mainly talking about urban communities which is part of the RAT RACE 🙂
An eye-opening article! Thanks to the writer. Earning money may seem difficult, but that is not always the case in spending it. Keeping control over the income ensures financial stability in the long run.
So according to this, I will need 6 million dollars. Ridiculous
If not 6 , then may be 3?
Hi,
I read this article only now and commend you for it. It is thought provoking for most of us who slog for 5-6 days a week not having the time to think the future through completely. The immediate thought that came to my mind when i read this piece is that i need to define the difference between need and greed for me. If i calculate on the basis of need, perhaps 300 – 500 times corpus will be enough. The moment i get into the greed zone (I also want this) the requirement of the corpus will keep going up.
Again, appreciate the article.
Very true ! .. well said !
I really appreciate the article, All are working hard to an unknown goal of wealth accumulation and not sure of how much actually needed, the thumb rule mentioned is quite simple to understand and make it clear where do I stand.
Hello Mr. Rajesh, Thank You for appreciating.
Anuradha
Great Article as it makes one to see the “Accumulation of Money” in a very different perspective of “Real Needs”.
Most of the articles and Calculators take in to account various factors like Inflation over years, Diminishing return on Corpus, Increased medical expenses over years, etc etc
But finally they most often come with a bloated corpus for Financial Freedom at 60, making people simply amass I think this thumb rule of 400 to 500 times the Monthly Expenses as Corpus itself is an excellent one as it takes care of all the above factors indirectly. In fact it provides a safety margin too as 300 times itself will be good enough
Hope this article will make people pause and think for a moment
“Do I need to run in this rat race or I can call it off?”
and live life more fully.
Yes, that’s exactly is the essence of this article .. 🙂
Manish
Very much informative. It is a kind of eye opener and clarifies a lot of issues especially for retirement planning and fixing a financial goal. All the points discussed are genuine. Thank you for sharing my friend.
Thanks Ashok !
When you say monthly expenditure does it include the current outgoing EMIs aswell?
No, it does not include the EMI .. because when you retire, it will not exist
Manish
Beautifully put.
Thing is we should reach our full potential (buy financially as well as career wise), Leo what you need and donate the remaining to the needy.
Good point !
Interesting post. We should set a limit for everything including making money. 1000 times monthly expenses is more than enough to put a stopping point. Well said.
Yes .. thanks Manoj
Like Chatur in 3 Idiots, we are all chasing success. Instead, if we chase excellence, success will naturally follow. If we try to excel in whatever we do and start finding meaning in our daily jobs, we would excel in whatever we do. Money will follow, and at the end of our lives we would not feel that we have lived in vain.
Can you please show the math which explains that 400-500 times monthly expenditure is good for 30 years?
Can you please show the math which explains that 1000 times monthly expenditure is good for a lifetime?
Please ignore if the calculation is a part of Jagoinvestor trade secret.
I have been a fan of your writings since you started and cannot thank you enough for your blogs.
Hi Sambaran
There is no trade secret here and its pure maths which you can do in excel. Assuming a starting corpus of 300 and monthly requirement of Rs 1 , which means yearly its 12 . Below is the working done in excel . Yearly withdrawals increase by 8% inflation and assuming the corpus earns 10% .. You can see that the corpus finishes in 34 yrs.
Year Starting Corpus Yearly Withdrawal (8% Increase) Remaining Corpus Growth In Corpus at 10%
1 300 12 288 317
2 317 13 304 334
3 334 14 320 352
4 352 15 337 371
5 371 16 355 390
6 390 18 372 410
7 410 19 391 430
8 430 21 409 450
9 450 22 428 470
10 470 24 446 491
11 491 26 465 512
12 512 28 484 532
13 532 30 502 552
14 552 33 519 571
15 571 35 536 590
16 590 38 552 607
17 607 41 566 622
18 622 44 578 636
19 636 48 588 647
20 647 52 595 654
21 654 56 598 658
22 658 60 598 658
23 658 65 592 652
24 652 70 581 639
25 639 76 563 619
26 619 82 537 591
27 591 89 502 553
28 553 96 457 502
29 502 104 399 439
30 439 112 327 360
31 360 121 239 263
32 263 130 132 146
33 146 141 5 5
34 5 152 -147 -162
35 -162 164 -326 -359
36 -359 177 -536 -590
37 -590 192 -781 -859
38 -859 207 -1066 -1173
If you do the same thing with corpus of 500 .. Then the corpus keeps going up and never finishes assuming if the inflation is just 8% and corpus earns 10% ..
Year Starting Corpus Yearly Withdrawal (8% Increase) Remaining Corpus Growth In Corpus at 10%
1 500 12 488 537
2 537 13 524 576
3 576 14 562 618
4 618 15 603 664
5 664 16 647 712
6 712 18 694 764
7 764 19 745 819
8 819 21 799 879
9 879 22 856 942
10 942 24 918 1010
11 1010 26 984 1082
12 1082 28 1054 1160
13 1160 30 1130 1243
14 1243 33 1210 1331
15 1331 35 1296 1425
16 1425 38 1387 1526
17 1526 41 1485 1633
18 1633 44 1589 1748
19 1748 48 1700 1870
20 1870 52 1818 2000
21 2000 56 1944 2138
22 2138 60 2078 2286
23 2286 65 2220 2442
24 2442 70 2372 2609
25 2609 76 2533 2786
26 2786 82 2704 2975
27 2975 89 2886 3175
28 3175 96 3079 3387
29 3387 104 3283 3611
30 3611 112 3499 3849
31 3849 121 3729 4102
32 4102 130 3971 4368
33 4368 141 4227 4650
34 4650 152 4498 4948
35 4948 164 4784 5262
36 5262 177 5085 5593
37 5593 192 5401 5941
38 5941 207 5735 6308
The thing is once the person accmulates the corpus beyond 300 times of monthly expenses, he/she is in a situation where hte corpus is big enough and the yearly addition is much more than what they need in a year .. so it creates a cycle that never ends.. However thats pure theoritical .. But I guess you got the idea of what I was trying to communicate.
So as an investor, your motto has to be to reach a situation where you have 300 times of your yearly corpus and that day you can call yourself “Financial Free”
Do let me know your thoughts .
Manish
Thanks a lot for your detailed reply Manish.
In your reply to my question, is the 300 a typo in your penultimate paragraph? Should the motto be reaching 500 times (instead of 300)? You just showed that 300-times-monthly-expenditure is not enough (assuming 8%-inflation and 10%-return). The money finishes in 34 years.
Its not typo … I know 300 is a good enough amount but it still lasts in 30-35 yrs … So if inflation is high or return is a bit less, 300 is not the right number even then or we can say that 300 is still a number which will keep you worried .. So to be on a safer side, I said lets target for 500 times or 1000 times to be truly worry free ! . I hope you now understand why I said 1000 times or 500 !
Excellent..Eye opening article
THanks
Both, my wife and myself, are senior retired citizens with no more medical / accidental insurance LIC endowment policies have matured and gone into our bank accounts. Bank balance is getting depleted over the years to cover our expenses of daily living. A year later daughter would be working in another city and we need to provide some money to her to cover her aged parents medical insurance, rental, etc. I estimate needing Rs 5 lacs per annum. An inheritance is in the pipeline of about 2.5 cr. I believe to invest the same in low risk cumulative and non-cumulative govt/RBI securities and bonds. After IL&S crash, etc. I don’t want to invest in stocks and mutual funds. Quite a headache. Fixed deposits in PSU banks provide lower interest than govt/RBI securities and they are at high risk because such banks have very high debts. Any eyeopener advice?
Thanks for your comment. I did not understand if you were just sharing your life or you also had a query?
It is a query to u shared with ur readers where I have given my situation as an example
Sir, I think as you are highly risk averse, you should invest in senior citizen saving scheme along with RBI bonds and fixed deposits.
Mutual funds however are good choices , atleast for a small portion of your portfolio, but I think your relationship with stocks and equity has already gone for a toss, so you better avoid them now.
Manish
Is it possible to share this article to our humble politicians?
Please do ahead 🙂
It’s really a good article… we need a stop point. But considering inflation, 1000 times of current monthly expense may not be sufficient…
Thanks .. 1000 times is indeed a good enough amount to retire .. do the maths
It was a nice eyeopener about living in present and spending !
But, at the same time, the figure 1000 times of monthly expenditure needs to be kept at retirement – seemed huge and it may not be achieved, by many, with their current profession… In order to achieve 1000 times, they might have to stretch too much and that will put them in a situation you’ve described in your earlier para (distant living, not spending time with family, etc.)….
Ultimately, through this article, the reader’s might have got confused ! Whether to live in present without thinking much about Future? Or, to work/over-work for 1000 times monthly expenditure! Because, for many both together seems distant dream…
This is solely my point of view.
Hi Hitesh
In a way you are a bit correct. 300-400 times is a good enough estimate you need to accumulate by the time you turn 60. But some people want to have an extra buffer so I thought let me give you a max range of 1000 times.
So now you can see the range as 300-1000 times. 300 is minimum and 1000 is maximum.
Manish
cool
1000 times at which stage of your life Manish?
Retiring @ 40 with 1000 times the monthly expense is different than @ 60 years?
Whenever one accumulates 500-1000 times of their monthly expenses, they have enough food for next 40-50 yrs .. SO one can retire at that moment.
If a person at 40 with expenses of 1 lacs per month is able to accumulate 5-10 crores, they are good to retire!
Manish
Thanks for your time Manish!